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Pentagon in 2002 Found `No Reliable' Iraq Arms Data
Bloomberg ^ | June 6, 2003 | Bloomberg

Posted on 06/06/2003 5:53:50 AM PDT by ejdrapes

Edited on 07/19/2004 2:11:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

June 6 (Bloomberg) -- A U.S. Defense Department report in September 2002 found ``no reliable information'' proving that Iraq had chemical weapons, even as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was saying the country had amassed stockpiles of the banned arms.

The unreleased report said Iraq ``probably'' had stockpiles of banned chemicals, a more tentative conclusion than Rumsfeld was presenting in public remarks. Iraq has ``amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons, including VX, sarin and mustard gas,'' he told Congress on Sept. 19.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; pentagon; wmd
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1 posted on 06/06/2003 5:53:50 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes
Politicans typically lie and/or dissemble. Once upon a time, freepers would have understood this. Why should Dubya be any different?
2 posted on 06/06/2003 5:55:49 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: ejdrapes
So when Hans Blix gave his Dec. 7th Report wouldn't that have change a few things?
3 posted on 06/06/2003 5:56:25 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Captain Kirk
Politicans typically lie and/or dissemble. Once upon a time, freepers would have understood this. Why should Dubya be any different?

Once upon a time conservatives opposed such behaviour(klintoon), I'm not partisan enough to support it now.
4 posted on 06/06/2003 6:00:17 AM PDT by steve50
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To: ejdrapes
Also the March 6th report "UNRESOLVED DISARMAMENT ISSUES IRAQ’S PROSCRIBED WEAPONS PROGRAMMES." has to be put into the mix about the US's decision to go into Iraq.

The principal part of this document thus presents clusters of “unresolved disarmament issues”, which are to be addressed by the inspection process (and Iraq) and from which “key remaining disarmament tasks” are to be identified and selected for early solution. Some of the material used in the cluster part is from the period after 1998. However, a short separate part of this document is specifically dedicated to disarmament questions related to the period after 1998, when UNSCOM inspections ended. Did Iraq resume any proscribed activities in this period and did it produce or import any proscribed weapons or other proscribed items?

5 posted on 06/06/2003 6:00:20 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Also from 3-6-03 report.

The rationale for WMD

The rationale for Iraq’s WMD programmes has been said to be the existence of Israel’s arsenal and WMD capabilities. A senior Iraqi government official wrote to President Saddam Hussein in 1988 that

“If our country were to obtain and develop chemical and biological weapons, this would be considered the best weapon of deterrence against the enemy in this field. The principle of “deterrence” is the best means of defence against the Zionist entity, and in this respect we suggest the following:

a. To continue to develop the types of the chemical weapons with an attempt to manufacture the most dangerous of these types in large quantities.

b. To secure long-range means, “Missiles carrying chemical heads” for reciprocal threat.

To prepare special storage areas for chemical weapons in the Southern areas of the region, and these areas must [be] within the range of the effectiveness of the current available missiles, and other means to reach the Zionist active targets in order to secure the surprise ‘thunder strike”, in using and accomplishing the quick reaction to deter the enemy.”

6 posted on 06/06/2003 6:04:13 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
Perhaps....but Cheney (and many others in the administration) was not so circumspect. Before the war, he said that there is "no doubt" that Iraq currently has WMD.
7 posted on 06/06/2003 6:04:20 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: OXENinFLA
Naw, don't you know the BJ kid established that everyone lies. So Blix was lying, the UN was lying, all those senators and reps that had access to the spy data, they were lying as well. When they voted the use of force resolutions in the house and senate, they were just lying.

They all lie. See how easy it is to establish this fact. The BJ kid started the trend, the wacko dumpo-o-craps want to make it their standard bearer in the next election. The depth of the dump-os hate blinds them nicely. Leftward ho.

Just ask the NYT, the NYT don't lie, do they?
8 posted on 06/06/2003 6:04:49 AM PDT by snooker
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To: snooker
The Senators and the UN are lemmings who will do what others tell them, especially in foreign policy. Heck, they don't even read most of the bills they vote for.

Blix didn't claim that Iraq *currently* had WMD. Did Bush lie? Probably not. Dissemble or stretch the truth would be more accurate. I suspect that he trumped up dubious or undated intelligence data on WMD, then claimed certainty, because he discovered that WMD was the most effective "scare" argument.

9 posted on 06/06/2003 6:11:21 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: ejdrapes
Some analyst writes some weasel words in a report to cover his ass in case he's wrong, and this author "interprets" it as damning evidence that Iraq is based on a lie.

Yes, it is certain that Iraq had banned weapons. They had them in 1998, and showeved no evidence that they were destroyed. The weapons are either still hidden somewhere in Iraq, or they were sent away to a sympathetic state such as Syria.

10 posted on 06/06/2003 6:13:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (Dump the income tax -- support an NRST!)
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To: snooker
When they voted the use of force resolutions in the house and senate, they were just lying.

I believe the use of force resolution was pushed thru right before election and anybody who questioned the accuracy of the information supporting it was painted as an unAmerican traitor by the administration.

It was hardball politics then, I see no reason it shouldn't be now.
11 posted on 06/06/2003 6:13:37 AM PDT by steve50
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To: steve50
What drama!

So this is a world-wide conspiracy of intelligence agencies, governments, the UN, Dems and Republicans?

A plot by Powell, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, Tenent, Blair, and hundreds of others?

They all kept this lie up for 12 years? And another 14 months before the war?

Serious and logical people know this is nonsense.
12 posted on 06/06/2003 6:14:03 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: ejdrapes; HatSteel
What about all this stuff?

WARNING: Gathering WMD storm a crock. See what Clinton told nation in 1998...

THE ROAD ENDS FOR WMD ON WHEELS

Coalition forces enter possible WMD site

Initial tests suggest WMD "cocktail" found in Iraq (**Of special note--post #58, by Archy)

U.S. finds new evidence of Iraqi WMD (NBC training school, antidotes)

Chem-weapons lab believed discovered

BRITS' CHILLING CHEM-NUKE FIND

CAPTURED FOES FOUND WITH CHEM-WAR GEAR

EUPHRATES 'POISONED'

MSNBC - Cyanide & Mustard Agents Found in Euphrates River

Is the Activity at Al Qaim Related to Nuclear Efforts?

U.S. probing nuclear facility (Al Tuwaitha Follow Up)

Team Inspects suspected plutonium site (update by the journalist who broke original story, NEW info)

Underground Nuclear Facility Found in Iraq

Marines hold Iraqi nuclear site built by French

U.S. Marines Guard Secret Iraqi City with Very Hot Nuclear Radiation Levels

And from Freeper "HatSteel":

Terrorist devices, chemical weapons found in Iraq

Suspicious Iraqi Drums - UPDATE

Suspected bioweapons labs found

Searching for Weapons of Mass Destruction, Larry Elder

Iraq's Weapons and the Road to War

Iraqi Scientist Links Weapons to 'Dual Use' Facilities, White House Says

IRAQ: U.S. Analysts Link Iraq Labs to Germ Arms

Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert

Herald Sun: Soldiers find Iraqi chemical 'dump'

***Germany's leading role in arming Iraq

*Germany intercepts (30 tonnes) chemicals (may be used to make nerve gas) for N Korea

New DOD team to hunt for intel as well as weapons

***Chemical Weapons Programs

Capture of chemical expert could help U.S. weapons hunt in Iraq (Emad Husayn Abdulla al-Ani)

Belgium Finds Nerve Gas Ingredient in Letters

Banned missile programme found in Iraq

Administration to Announce 'Rollback' Strategy for WMD

Suspicious Iraqi Drums Preliminary Testing Suggests Chemical Agents; More Testing Needed

2 trailers deemed biological arms labs

***Table 2: Characteristics of Chemical Warfare Agents: Commercial Uses of Chemicals or Precursor Chemicals ***CENTAF IRAQ'S CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS PROGRAM


13 posted on 06/06/2003 6:14:27 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: Captain Kirk
I'd consider the source here, skipper.
14 posted on 06/06/2003 6:14:34 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
Meaning....you will "trust" Dubya come hell or high water?
15 posted on 06/06/2003 6:17:17 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
No...meaning I don't trust Bloomberg. Trust but verify, Captain.
16 posted on 06/06/2003 6:18:07 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Captain Kirk
Dissemble or stretch the truth would be more accurate. I suspect that he trumped up dubious or undated intelligence data on WMD, then claimed certainty, because he discovered that WMD was the most effective "scare" argument.

Is there or is there not two discoved WMD mobile labs? Did Bush "trump" those up.

Go back and listen to your boring dubious CNN, NPR, NYTimes reports.

Is bush lying? No. Is the left and Bush haters trying to stirr things up? Yes!

17 posted on 06/06/2003 6:19:35 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
Two measley labs....which may not even been used in years constitute "certainty" that Iraq currently has WMD? Yeah right.
18 posted on 06/06/2003 6:21:11 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: mewzilla
Agree. Always...a good rule, it would be nice if most freepers followed it now (as they did with Clinton) wouldn't it?
19 posted on 06/06/2003 6:22:08 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: sirchtruth
Take a look at #13 on this thread. A lot of things have been found, some of them complete as found, some of them requiring components to be put together--something that would take perhaps half an hour to an hour to accomplish. This whole "there aren't any WMDs, wahhhh" thing is getting tiresome, and I would expect better of Freepers.
20 posted on 06/06/2003 6:22:29 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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