It's Time To Tell NASCAR How We Feel About Toyota

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[Paradox]

Sorry, but this is more of a "red-neck" cause than a conservative one. In the latest world crisis, the government of Japan gave the US unconditional support. That says alot to me. Also, when push comes to shove over there in that region, and when its time to take out more IL smelling trash, the Japanese are going to be right there with us.

As for Jap vs American cars, its a silly debate, some are better than others for the money, some worse.

[Hatteras]

Dang! You're all over the map. When you can put F1 and the 1/4 mile in the same category I'm not too sure how to take that. Sounds like your just looking to stir things up.

[eBelasco]

Real racing: Bonneville. F1. Road America. The quartermile at Pomona.
I strongly disagree on F1. NASCAR pits man against man, in the form of driver vs driver, and pit crew vs pit crew. Any driver can win on any given Sunday. F1 is primarily engineer vs engineer, euroweenie vs euroweenie. It's tracks prevent effective racing, and the driver is secondary to the car. While this may be interesting to some, it pales beside the drama that is 43 men battling on a half-mile oval.

[beelzepug]

Actually, the current Mazda pickups are Rangers.

[G.Mason]

"Good point. Best to consider the first one sacrificial."

When I was 16 I asked my Dad if I could get a car when I turned 17.(Had to have parents permission to get a car if you were a minor)

He said, "You can get all the cars you want, you buy them".

My how times change.

[texas_fool]

The Ranger is a Mazda underneath those Ford emblems

Ranger is designed by Japanese engineers. IT's assembled in the US and built from mostly domestic parts.

I like these guys talking about Japanese cars. Most Japanese cars are built from recycled metals since Japan is the worlds largest importer of tin and has very few mines to make their own steel. In the aircraft industry Japanese nuts and bolts have for years been considered far inferior for this reason. I have been buying US made cars since for ever and all I can says is I haven't had any problems to speak off. Currently I drive a 1987 T-Bird and also have have a 1987 Chevy PU. My neighbors have bought countless Japanese cars in the time I have known them and mots were bought to replace broken down Japanese cars.

I do maintain my own cars and have enjoyed doing it. I think this may be the real problem with "quality".

[doodad]

Navigator

[coder2]

Speaking from experience maybe ??? I know what you mean though, the first vehicle will probably be in an accident...

I'm also thinking of putting him in a HUGE car for safety sake !!! Hubby just rolls his eyes...

[MineralMan]

"While this may be interesting to some, it pales beside the drama that is 43 men battling on a half-mile oval."

To each his own, I guess. My favorite is SCCA club racing, or what's left of it. I ran a '59 AH Sprite in H Production back in the 60s at club races in CA. I think I paid $450 for the car, and ran its wheels off. I never won a single race, but it was hellacious fun, that H Production class.

A guy could go racing then, just because he wanted to. Now, it's virtually impossible, except in the vintage racing circuit, and those cars are getting really expensive.

[tacticalogic]

I'm not even sure you can label them one or the other any more. My wife's Mazda Tribute (same as a Ford Escape) is built on a Mazda 626 chassis, and has the same engine as a Ford Taurus, with a Ford tranny modified for the AWD.

[samuel_adams_us]

Geez, everyone here says it's okay to ship our IT jobs overseas putting a ton of college educated people out of work but they don't want to allow foreign competition on our own soil? What's wrong with this picture?

[stainlessbanner]

Toyota gave millions of dollars to Jesse Jackson.

[FateAmenableToChange]

The simple fact is Toyota makes a superior product. My Toyota pickup has 300,000 + on it and is still running great. By the time my Ford reached 100,000 it needed a new engine and tranny

Nice to hear that ---- we're looking a a truck for our son, and are wavering between a Ford Ranger and a Toyota...

Same with my GMC pickup - flip-off from GM after it burned through 4 transmissions and three clutches and got permanent, unfixable vapor lock, and 3 water pumps and numerous other junk after only 130,000 miles. Toyota produces quality product and stands behind it.

[beelzepug]

Let's see....Monte Carlos and some Chev pickups are built in Oshawa, Ont., Intrepids are built in Brampton, Ont., some Dodge trucks are built in Saltillo, Mex. and The Dodge van I used to have was built in Windsor. My Toyota Tundra which is, so far, the best truck I've ever owned was made in Indiana and these are going to race in the Craftsman truck series next season. So, what's American and what isn't? Gentlemen, just start your freakin' engines!

[Lee'sGhost]

"It's Time To Tell NASCAR How We Feel About Toyota"

Dear NASCAR,

I think Toyotas are great, especially the ones built in the USA. I certainly hope the NASCAR drivers aren't scared of a little "outside" competition. If you're gonna let gay guys drive cars, why not Japanese? Some people have said NASCAR doesn't want Toyotas in NASCAR because of WWII. If that was true it would follow that all the races and racers would be in and from the north because of what happened during the War of Northern Agression. Jeez, talk about "still fighting the war!"

Thanks, and by the way, I'm much more concerned about you letting Jeese Jackson get his racist foot in the door than anything the folks from Nippon might do.

STILL FOR FIREBALL ROBERTS


. . .just to mention a few, began this sport on the beaches of Florida and North Carolina, as well as dirt tracks in North Carolina."

Actually, it began when the started hopping up the engines in cars running whiskey during Prohibition.

[Mr. Mojo]

That's "Toyota" sutpid!!!!

Or, to many Toyota owners who like to erase letters on the backs of their trucks, it's "yo"

[Lee'sGhost]

"Hey, if Japan can handle a Hawaiian Sumo wrestler (who is quite a champion, as I recall), then I think the American ego can handle a Toyota stock car, even if it wins races."


OOOooo. Well said. Wish I had remembered that.

[eBelasco]

A guy could go racing then, just because he wanted to. Now, it's virtually impossible, except in the vintage racing circuit, and those cars are getting really expensive.
Very true. How about a 1982 Chevette league?
Chevette racing

[N. Theknow]

Looked at the Nav and the Caddy Escalade.

They are both AWD and that won't make it up my driveway in the winter and the road to my house during MUD week.

Gotta have a 4X4.

[beelzepug]

Toyota's "donation" came after I bought my Tundra. But I wrote letters, you'd better believe it!