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McCain Seeks Rules Change To Curb Pork
The Hill ^ | May 13, 2003 | Sarita Chourey

Posted on 05/13/2003 4:11:35 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and several colleagues are trying to change Senate rules to make it harder for senators to attach riders to pending legislation.

If they get their way, the riders, known as earmarks in appropriations bills, would face higher hurdles in order to be retained in both policy and appropriations measures.

McCain is scheduled to meet with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) and Rules Committee Chairman Trent Lott (R-Miss.) as early as today to press for the rule change, aimed at refining the Senate’s germaneness standard for amendments.

McCain’s proposed change would call for a “supermajority” of 60 senators to retain the amendment. This would shift the balance of power to the senators who seek to strike the amendment from those who seek to have it included.

Currently, any senator may move to strike an amendment, but must convince at least 50 of his colleagues to join in opposition. Under the new arrangement, it would up to the proposer of the amendment, rather than the would-be striker, to gather the needed 60 votes.

McCain is working with Democratic Sens. Russ Feingold (Wis.), with whom he collaborated closely last year in securing passage of campaign finance reform legislation, as well as others whose names were not immediately available.

The effort departs from McCain’s signature anti-pork campaign because amendments to policy legislation, as well as appropriations, would face a greater germaneness test under the proposed rule change.

McCain’s move would not affect the separate effort by some Republicans to change Senate rules in order to make it easier to end filibusters of judicial nominees.

McCain has opposed what he sees as excessive earmarks directed to specific projects in a senator’s home state. His efforts have met stiff resistance from members of the Appropriations Committee. He expects a similar fight with his latest attempt to curb so-called earmarks.

“I am sure [Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.)] will oppose it. The appropriators don’t want any diminution of their powers,” McCain said in an interview last week.

Feingold, who supported a similar effort by McCain last year, said: “There is a problem of all these extraneous items [being] put into appropriation bills and others. We are trying to figure out some ways to weed them out.

“The amount of these special interest items in legislation has gotten worse and worse. Sen. McCain said he saw some statistics that it’s reached an all-time high in the last couple years. I think [McCain] is on the right track,” Feingold added.

Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), who sits on both the Appropriations and Rules Committees, said, “Everyone has an opportunity to offer amendments in the Senate. There’s full protection afforded under the rules of the Senate to give any senator the opportunity to amend any bill any time. It can’t be restricted here as in the House.”

A change in rules that encounters opposition requires a two-thirds majority, or 67 votes, to overcome a filibuster. A standard filibuster requires 60 votes to defeat.

Lott called McCain’s proposed changes “certainly worth considering,” but added, “[McCain] has certainly made himself clear on the subject many, many times. We’re going to take a look at what he’s talking about, discuss it with the leader, and decide how to proceed.”

A spokesman for Rules Committee ranking member Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) said, “We haven’t seen [McCain’s proposal] yet, but we will take the time to fully examine it when we do.”

Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), another member of Appropriations, said that earmarks have “been abused, somewhat,” but also expressed significant reservations toward any change in the rules on earmarks and other amendments.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: senate; spending

1 posted on 05/13/2003 4:11:35 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
This may be an goog ol' boy slingshot solution to Bird - the biggest porker of them all!
2 posted on 05/13/2003 4:20:32 PM PDT by RAY
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To: bruinbirdman
McCain is on the right track on this one. A stopped clock is right twice a day.
3 posted on 05/13/2003 4:20:54 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: bruinbirdman
I wish him luck. Anything that keeps them from spending my monet the better.
4 posted on 05/13/2003 4:21:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Even though he is right on this, and he has always opposed pork, I still have problems trusting him, since he is a delusional madman.
6 posted on 05/13/2003 4:28:58 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: c-b 1
I agree..too much middle of the night additions to essential legislation..so it's passed.I wouuld faint if they gave up the pork.
7 posted on 05/13/2003 4:39:48 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: bruinbirdman
Wow - another another thing to agree with McCain on ....
8 posted on 05/13/2003 4:54:45 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: bruinbirdman
Its a shame though, I doubt that this will ever pass. The good ole boys will fight to keep there system of gobbling up tax payer money to pay off supporters or buy off votes.
9 posted on 05/13/2003 5:08:09 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
Note that Feintoad pays McSprain back for CFR but no one else will lend a name to it.

The pained one seems to create good press with legislation that goes no where even if it takes the Supreme Court to prove it.

yitbos

10 posted on 05/13/2003 5:17:36 PM PDT by bruinbirdman (Cut government spending)
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To: bruinbirdman
One approach that should be considered is to pass laws forbidding anything being named after politicians still in office, or even still alive. Look at how many things are named after Robert Byrd in W. Virginia. Congress continues to create monuments to themselves, with our money. I would love to see a bill proposed that would first remove the names of any living politicians from everything funded with public (our) dollars, and forbidding it in the future. Maybe without the free publicity and ego boosting, some pork might not happen (I can dream, can't I?).
11 posted on 05/13/2003 5:22:13 PM PDT by RussRoberts
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To: Sonny M
Piggybacking is a much better name than earmarks, isn't it? I hope this does get through - I guess I'll even contact my senators on this. It would be great if this was passed in state legislatures also.

Dave Barry just had a column on this - according to him Sen. Leahy had attached 500k in lamprey eradication to the war appropriation bill.

I am trying to imagine the justification here - a strong national economy is vital to the nation's defense, Vermont's economy is vital to the nation's, tourism is a big part of Vermont's economy, fishing is an important part of tourism, fisherman hate seeing those ugly suckers when they pull up a fish...

Mrs VS

12 posted on 05/13/2003 5:25:15 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: bruinbirdman
The first good idea John McCain has had since he ejected.
13 posted on 05/13/2003 5:50:52 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: bruinbirdman
I would do nothing for Mclame unless he backs the tax cuts
14 posted on 05/13/2003 5:54:29 PM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: The Wizard
If he gets this through, he'd definatley back tax cuts and bring a few rats with him to boot.
15 posted on 05/13/2003 6:42:59 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: bruinbirdman; OXENinFLA
McCain speaking on the Roll Call version of this now.
16 posted on 11/07/2003 9:07:17 AM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: bruinbirdman; OXENinFLA
Whoops! Not quite this one. It is about this: McCain Breaks Own Pork Rule. Unfortunately this is a subscription only site, but McCain says it has something to do about a Air Force base earmark which he is disavowing and it looks legit. There has sice been some correction from Citizens Against Government Waste(?) who supposedly brought it to Roll Call's attention. McCain said he know he would be called to task for violating his own rule and is carefull not to.
17 posted on 11/07/2003 9:14:02 AM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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