More Info on the Mobile Chemical Labs & other German nastiness

compiled from Bavarian Broadcasting ^ | 20 February 2003 | self

[An.American.Expatriate]

“Munich Report” presents eyewitness to Saddam’s mobile biological and chemical laboratories.

At least eight units came from Germany.

Deals with political backing:  Federal Government supports German industry secret trip to Baghdad.

Munich, 02/17/03.  The mobile biological and chemical weapons laboratories, which US Secretary of Stat Colin Powell presented in drawings actually exist.  At least eight of these were delivered by Germany at the end of the 1980’s.  This was reported for the first time by an eyewitness to “Munich Report”.  Hans Branscheidt, an internationally involved development worker for Medico International, saw these vehicles in action many times in 1988.  The laboratories are not only capable of use in analysis of poisons and chemicals, but also as “factories for Smallpox, Botulin and other things”.  The identification by the inspectors is easily prevented due to their mobility.  “That eight of these mobile laboratories were delivered by Germany to Iraq at the end of the 1980’s is certain.”

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The Federal Government strongly supports the efforts of the German Industry in making further deals with Iraq.  “Munich Report” documents a secret trip of the Federal Association of German Industry, with the support of the Foreign Office and the Federal Ministry of Economics, which took place in May 2000 and which casts an entirely new light on the Iraq Politics of the Federal Government.  Among the delegation was a company (in the first version, the company was identified as “Kolb”) that had previously been reported to have a connection to poison gas production in Iraq.

In a “supplement” of the BDI to the trip, the german ambassador to Iraq is quoted as saying “President Saddam personally [goutiert:  an old word, seems to mean entertain]” the german delegation.  This was shown “With many gestures and words of sympathy, and within the bounds of the visit, which is normally only accorded to highly placed official political visitors”.  The new parole is now to secure “a proper portion of the Orders Cake” for the german industry.

BDI General Manager Ludolf von Wartenburg stressed that the position of the german industry is that it is time, not only “in Iraq, but also in the UN”, to formulate and put though national interests. It must be made clear , especially vis-à-vis America, that with the current politics in the UN security Council, “German (economic) interests are being severely damaged”. In carrying this line further, Wartenburg later recommended to the Federal Government, that, in the Iraq politics, they should follow the example of France and to distance themselves even further from the US. This policy matches perfectly with the Irak Policy of the Federal Government in the UN. BDI Man Wartenburg further recommended that, in order to prevent a betrayal of their intent “In Iraqi TV,we let them praise us, in our media we prefer a bit more conceit”.

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[An.American.Expatriate]

More evidence of Germany's full knowledge of Iraqi wrongdoing and how the German Government and industry are trying to screw the US

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for posting this link of Germany to Iraq. Somehow I get the feeling this is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Dog]

fyi..

[aristeides]

“Munich Report” documents a secret trip of the Federal Association of German Industry, with the support of the Foreign Office and the Federal Ministry of Economics, which took place in May 2000 and which casts an entirely new light on the Iraq Politics of the Federal Government. Among the delegation was a company (in the first version, the company was identified as “Kolb”) that had previously been reported to have a connection to poison gas production in Iraq.

Delivering mobile biolabs to Iraq in the 1980's, when Iraq was a quasi-ally of the U.S., is one thing. May 2000 -- if this report is true -- is quite another.

[aristeides]

In May 2000, Schroeder's Red-Green coalition was in power in Germany, and the Clinton administration was in power here in the U.S. I wonder if the U.S. government was aware of these sales.

[An.American.Expatriate]

The report is true. This was reported by the state run media and I verified that the trip occured via the BDI web-site.

The sale of the trucks is not the issue. The issue is:
1) Iraq hasn't declared them and,
2) Everyone of those pukes in the UN who "laughed" about Powell's "sketches" needs a good whack upside the head.

[An.American.Expatriate]

The german government has a long history of "hiding" its arms deals with other nations. There is a very long article about this (in German), which will require a bit of time to translate but it really sums up the last 20 years of deals between Germany and Iraq!

[Fred Mertz]

Good question.

[An.American.Expatriate]

This information has been public for a while, just not "very" public. That's why the German's could bluster at the UN without fear. Colin Powell has got to be the most patient man on the face of the planet. How else could he put up with the obvious hypocrisy of France & Germany when they ore confronted, even obliquely, with evidence which THEY KNOW IS TRUE!

[MizSterious]

More connections, FYI!

(Thanks, AAE!)

[Tangaray]

No wonder the Germans don't want to join us against iraq, they might get gassed with their own stuff!

[An.American.Expatriate]

I think the germans are more worried about thier financial deals with iraq than they are with the weapons they have sold Saddam. After all, if we attack, all those nice deals for building "pesticide" plants and "tractor" factories will more than likely dry up!!!

[Libertarianize the GOP]

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[swaimh]

thus we raise this question:
is germany with us, or are they against us?

i always thought they didn't like America, but i didn't know they'd stoop this low

[knighthawk]

The mobile biological and chemical weapons laboratories, which US Secretary of Stat Colin Powell presented in drawings actually exist. At least eight of these were delivered by Germany at the end of the 1980’s. This was reported for the first time by an eyewitness to “Munich Report”.

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[Terriergal]

Oh now let's not get down on the Germans and French. we may *need* them in this war.

/sarcasm

[dixiechick2000]

Excellent post!

Thanks for the ping, knighthawk!

[Terriergal]

I think the germans are more worried about thier financial deals with iraq than they are with the weapons they have sold Saddam.

But-- But.... Oh gosh you mean it's about money? (*GASP!* Those wonderful altruistic old europeans are concerned about their bottom line???)

/sarcasm

How come appeasement is OK based on national interests, but war is not? duh. sorry just venting. I'm not arguing with ya.

[knighthawk]

Nedd the French? If we wanted to carry a white flag and surrender, we could do that ourselves, even though the French are very good at it.

[Terriergal]

:-)