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Dick Morris--The first casualty of Iraq war: Liberal credibility
The Hill ^ | February 19, 2003 | Dick Morris

Posted on 02/19/2003 6:43:12 AM PST by Dog Gone

It doesn't matter what the polls say right now about the war in Iraq. When we invade, we either will or will not find what Secretary of State Colin Powell says is there. If we do not find it, President Bush will be in serious trouble. If we do, all of his critics will be.

Unlike so many issues in public policy, this one will be determined shortly one way or another. One may have to wait years before we can determine if a legislative course succeeds or fails. Usually, by the time the verdict is in, the voters have shifted their attention far away.

But Iraq either will be found to have the chemical and biological weapons we fear it has and the incipient nuclear capacity or these nightmares will prove to have been paranoid. The fact that the denouement will take place in a few weeks, while the whole world is watching, makes this outcome a seminal one for our politics and the new world order.

My money’s on President Bush. He wouldn't be pushing us toward this war unless he felt he had the goods on Saddam.

If Bush is right, the left in the United States will be discredited for many decades to come. In the opposite of the Vietnam syndrome, where the left proved to be correct — it didn't make a bit of difference in the cold war whether we won or lost in Vietnam — it will now be proven massively, totally wrong.

With each weapons lab and bomb factory our troops find, the credibility of the left wing of the Democratic Party will go down the drain, not to rise again for many years. In retrospect, they will seem as misguided as the appeasers of Munich were and their political fortunes will be just as doomed.

Politically, in the United States, Iraq will become a term like “Munich” to debunk the appeasers. Like “Vietnam” it will be a place that becomes a lesson. It will stand as the prime example of how reflexive opposition to violence undermines the long term cause of world peace. Those who are now marching for peace are on their last march.

Soon, the reality of the world around them will force its way into their consciousness and the shame of the inaction they urged will keep them indoors in the future when the peace trumpet summons them again.

The United Nations Security Council will go the way of the General Assembly. The takeover of the larger body by a myriad of tiny nations with no power and less credibility doomed it to the role of a by-stander when U.N. action was called for.

Now, the subservience of the U.N. Security Council to the veto and voice of nations like France will make it irrelevant as well, just as the Soviet vetoed marginalized it during the Cold War.

Nor will NATO survive the ravaging of the French and German intransigence. No longer will the alliance be the forum for joint decision making about Western military action.

The lesson of the Iraq War will be that the world is unipolar and that anyone who wants a voice needs to be heard at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The European Union headquarters in Brussels won't do and the U.N. headquarters in New York will be marginalized. The only forum at which to speak will be at the forum of American foreign policy decision-making.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair understands the new reality. By flying to Texas and Washington, Blair shows that he realizes that it is only by injecting himself into the U.S. decision-making context that he can influence the outcome of events. It will be a very long time before France or Germany recover their voices after we find the weapons caches in Iraq.

President Bush’s poll ratings going into the war are slipping. His job approval appears to have dipped below 60 percent, less than Bill Clinton had during his entire second term. But they will be very high coming out of Iraq. And that’s what will matter.


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1 posted on 02/19/2003 6:43:12 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Wishful thinking. Sadaam could launch CBN weapons live on TV and the left won't admit they were wrong.
2 posted on 02/19/2003 6:46:52 AM PST by TankerKC (Analyzing Iraq requires intellectual work, spouting off about the US requires only attitude.)
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To: Dog Gone
Oh no. If Dick Morris is predicting President Bush will come out of this war smelling like a rose, then Dubya's in BIG trouble!!
3 posted on 02/19/2003 6:47:04 AM PST by Coop
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To: Dog Gone
Liberal credibility?

Two words that don't go together, total oxymoron.

4 posted on 02/19/2003 6:49:02 AM PST by demlosers
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To: Dog Gone
In the opposite of the Vietnam syndrome, where the left proved to be correct — it didn't make a bit of difference in the cold war whether we won or lost in Vietnam

Two million dead victims of Pol Pot would take issue with that statement.

5 posted on 02/19/2003 6:51:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Dog Gone
Those who are now marching for peace are on their last march.

Not likely. They have a tremendous capacity for self-delusion. Just look at how they have convinced themselves that an unborn baby is not a human being.

6 posted on 02/19/2003 6:53:41 AM PST by knuthom
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To: dfwgator
Two million dead victims of Pol Pot would take issue with that statement.

I thought it was 5 million in Cambodia, and 1.5 million in Vietnam.

7 posted on 02/19/2003 6:55:20 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Dog Gone
Morris states re:Vietnam "...where the left proved to be correct." Tell THAT to the 3 million Degars, Montagnards, Meo and H'Moung, murdered and "missing" since the Communist takeover. Tell it to the approx. one million that died in, or fleeing from the Communist "re-education" camps established post-1975.

The left NEVER gets it right. And when they get it wrong, as they always do, they deny it. Just as they deny this Vietnamese holocaust...

8 posted on 02/19/2003 6:57:04 AM PST by donozark
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To: Dog Gone
I point out, unfortunately, that while the appeasers lost credibility during WWII, the Brits chucked Churchill out and elected the execreble Clement Atlee in 1945, just in time for Potsdam.
9 posted on 02/19/2003 6:58:24 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamiam Esse Delendam)
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To: dfwgator
I'm with you. I think Vietnam was where we drew a line in the sand. The Soviets found that backing a full scale war was expensive. If you look at Communist insurgencies after Vietnam the Soviets where only distantly involved. Far more often it was the Cubans who carried the water (eg. Angola, Niacaragua).
10 posted on 02/19/2003 6:59:42 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (I don't believe in hyphenating Americans)
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To: Coop
Our side is known for telling the truth. We'll be fine.
11 posted on 02/19/2003 6:59:48 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Dog Gone
One problem with Morris' analysis: the Left was NOT "right" on Vietnam. That war demonstrated the need for the "Reagan doctrine" of war fighting, namely:

1) Don't fight a war unless you plan to win

2) Do everything you can to ensure than you will win

3) Fight as an absolute last measure

4) Fight only in the national interest or for national security.

People will disagree over whether #s 3 & 4 were applicable in Vietnam, but I don't think many will disagree that we did not do either #1 or #2.

12 posted on 02/19/2003 7:00:13 AM PST by LS
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To: Dog Gone; demlosers; TankerKC
You've got it exactly.

First, among those who think, there is no such thing as a credible liberal position.

Second, among those who don't think, they wouldn't even believe their lyin' eyes if they saw incontrovertible evidence that Bush were correct.

13 posted on 02/19/2003 7:07:33 AM PST by white trash redneck
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To: TankerKC
I think the left will claim that Bush withheld information from them, and they would have supported the war if he hadn't been playing political games with them.

Just my hunch.

14 posted on 02/19/2003 7:09:02 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: NativeNewYorker
Best estimates are 2 million murdered in Cambodia. By communist standards, that is a small-ish massacre. But it did represent one of every three Cambodians, reducing their population from 6M to 4M.
15 posted on 02/19/2003 7:12:09 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascism sucks!)
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To: GOPJ
Our side is known for telling the truth. We'll be fine.

You don't understand. When Toe Sucker predicts the future, you can bet money the exact opposite will occur! :-)

16 posted on 02/19/2003 7:12:13 AM PST by Coop
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To: Dog Gone
My guess is they will play the conspiracy theory game - "how do WE know those pictures of all of those WMD's are real?"....these people will stop at nothing to keep their delusions intact.
17 posted on 02/19/2003 7:16:06 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash (They will pry the keys to my Suburban from my cold dead hands!!!)
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To: knuthom
I don't see this as there last march. I've noticed that even when the leaders are questioned about their relationship with anti-American and communist groups they don't back down, they just ask "So what?"

I think it's all coming to a head. We will fight the left and their terrorism all over the world, including here.

I see an anger and determination in them that won't be cooled by being proved wrong. It will only turn them to greater violence.

As always, I hope to be proved wrong.
18 posted on 02/19/2003 7:22:08 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Wait til you see plan B)
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Morris isn't right all of the time (like saying Hillary wouldn't run) but I am guessing he is right on with this one. We must believe in our President and most of us do. President Bush has the goods on Saddam or he wouldn't be putting this country in danger. He has our best interests at heart and he is a man who believes in the Power from above.
19 posted on 02/19/2003 7:25:57 AM PST by cousair
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To: Dog Gone
Morris makes a good point however and that is respect to Chirac. If we are right as I believe we are, France is going to be seen for what it is. Chirac's dreams of an European alliance to counter America will go down in flames.
20 posted on 02/19/2003 7:25:57 AM PST by RichardW
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