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Emerging Field of Mathematics may hurt Democrats
The Conservative Charter | Jan edition | T R Lund

Posted on 02/08/2003 3:26:54 AM PST by cq

The emerging field of Qualculus originated in the mid 80s from data models created to mimic biochemical reactions in a computer program. So what does that have to do with politics? Qualculus also deals with mass changes in a system such as millions of enzymes attacking sugars in metabolism. These mathematical models can also deal with similar mass changes in the economy where millions of people are buying and selling goods and services.

One very important factor in the economic models is called Delta V. V is a symbol used to denote VIM, or Very Important Money. VIM is the amount of money that each consumer is left with after paying rent, food, gas, water and TAXES. In other words it is the amount of money where the consumer has the greatest choice in spending. It also happens to be a key factor in motivating workers. If all the money you earn goes to paying taxes and bills, then there will be little motivation for Americans to work harder and achieve new goals.

This does not fair well with Democrats plan of high taxes and their stand against further tax cuts. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that high taxes are sucking the economy dry. Democrats instead try to argue economics from Keynes theories of how more government spending will increase economic growth. But there is a limit to how much this spending will increase economic growth and current mathematical models show that we are well past that point.


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I don't have time to scan the math examples they gave in the article or the details, I will do that later if I get the time.

I reposted this so that comments will be directed toward the contents of the article and not my typing skills.
1 posted on 02/08/2003 3:26:54 AM PST by cq
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To: cq
Thanks, much better. Sorry to be so tough on you!

I agree with your article's content, though - and not just taxes are lined up the wrong way for the Democrats, but a lot of other things, too. With luck, and a short Iraqi campaign, Bush & co. will have clear sailing thru 04.
2 posted on 02/08/2003 3:34:04 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: cq
The average "joe" doesn't get it, however. When he hears "
Vote for me and all is free." ---The Dem lever is pulled.

3 posted on 02/08/2003 3:37:13 AM PST by The Raven (Liberalism: The dream world called denial)
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To: The Raven
The value of money is determined by what you are willing to give in order to get it. If you give nothing to get it then what is it worth?
4 posted on 02/08/2003 3:42:40 AM PST by cq
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To: canuck_conservative
We need more republican senators with Guts! I hope Bill Frist does not cave in the way Lott did.
5 posted on 02/08/2003 3:48:45 AM PST by cq
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To: cq
If all the money you earn goes to paying taxes and bills, then there will be little motivation for Americans to work harder and achieve new goals.

I think that simplifies it way too much. Having bills was always a motivation for me to work harder to make more money. Paying high taxes just pisses me off. It has never been a disincentive to work though.

6 posted on 02/08/2003 3:55:21 AM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Fzob
"Paying high taxes just pisses me off. It has never been a disincentive to work though."

To me it is an incentive to do things for myself to avoid paying someone else to do them. If you roof your own house you don't pay taxes on the imputed income. This is how people used to make it on low incomes and they will have to learn to do it again. Continuously increasing tax rates eventually make an increase in salary meaningless.
7 posted on 02/08/2003 4:02:14 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: Fzob
If the Bills are the kind of bills you can pay off like credit cards, I agree. But I think the bills they are referring to have a constant presence, they show up every month. You could for example go with out gas, but if that is what you use to heat your home, then you are sacrificing heat for money. Not a very good choice in the northen states. In fact there was an elderly lady who apparently froze to death last year because they turned the gas off on her for not paying the bill. In many states, however, there are laws against a company turning off the gas when it is the sole source of heat during the winter.
8 posted on 02/08/2003 4:07:13 AM PST by cq
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To: RipSawyer
To me it is an incentive to do things for myself to avoid paying someone else to do them. If you roof your own house you don't pay taxes on the imputed income.

Interesting view on taxes and the "do it your selfer." I rarely pay anyone to do something I need done because I'm cheap. It has also made me reasonably skilled at doing just about anything around the house.

9 posted on 02/08/2003 4:11:16 AM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: RipSawyer
Inflation is often caused by increases in taxes as well as the increase in the minimum wage. If your salary increase does not keep up with inflation the you are actually working for less income each year. Many companies this year have decreased thier increment for salaries. This will likely cause an effect on the economy in the long run.
10 posted on 02/08/2003 4:12:29 AM PST by cq
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To: cq
Here is a small webpage that shows one of the mathematical formulas

It really is bizare looking.
11 posted on 02/08/2003 4:17:42 AM PST by cq
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To: cq
I just believe there is not an intrinsic connection between working hard and achieving goals and your level of bills or taxation.

It depends on the individual. If you're lazy and unmotivated, excessive taxes will cause you to shrug your shoulders and say "I'm helpless." If that's you, then it is in the end, just a convenient excuse.

If you're motivated then you just get it done (however it is defined) and don't look for excuses for failure. If you fail you just get up and start anew.

I saw this close up during a business trip to Italy. Taxes are astronomical and everyone is basically guaranteed a job for life (short of murdering your boss). Because of this there are two types of workers. Those that do as little as possible, and those that work and create because its in their nature.


12 posted on 02/08/2003 4:23:24 AM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Fzob
If you're motivated then you just get it done (however it is defined) and don't look for excuses for failure. If you fail you just get up and start anew.

That is the basic philosophy behind conservatism

In socialist societies such as the former USSR there was certainly an effect on workers as in the case of a factory where the government had dictated that they should produce 10,000 kilos of screws each year. So the factory produce 4 2,500 kilo screws.

I wonder who ended up getting shot for that?
13 posted on 02/08/2003 4:31:20 AM PST by cq
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To: RipSawyer
Here is another article in this same area of math
14 posted on 02/08/2003 4:33:52 AM PST by cq
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To: Fzob
Another article from the same site

These articles have some of the symbols I was going to scan in. Take a look at them on these websites instead.
15 posted on 02/08/2003 4:45:25 AM PST by cq
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To: The Raven
Here's a scan I found on a related site:


16 posted on 02/08/2003 4:56:37 AM PST by cq
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To: canuck_conservative
One thing for sure, this will never win the Nobel prize in Economics. The Nobel committee seems to only award it's prize to those who contribute to the liberal agenda.

Having Carter win the prize after he just about handed nukes over to the North Koreans really gets me. It really destoys the value of the prize when you hand it to a terrorist like Yasir Affafat. Kofi would not be my choice either.
17 posted on 02/08/2003 5:04:48 AM PST by cq
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One thing for sure, this will never win the Nobel prize in Economics. The Nobel committee seems to only award it's prize to those who contribute to the liberal agenda.

Really? Who among the following was given the Nobel, in your estimation, for work that contributes to the liberal agenda?

2002 Daniel Kahneman, Vernon L. Smith
2001 George A. Akerlof, A. Michael Spence, Joseph E. Stiglitz
2000 James J. Heckman, Daniel L. McFadden
1999 Robert A. Mundell
1998 Amartya Sen
1997 Robert C. Merton, Myron S. Scholes
1996 James A. Mirrlees, William Vickrey
1995 Robert E. Lucas Jr.
1994 John C. Harsanyi, John F. Nash Jr., Reinhard Selten
1993 Robert W. Fogel, Douglass C. North
1992 Gary S. Becker
1991 Ronald H. Coase
1990 Harry M. Markowitz, Merton H. Miller, William F. Sharpe
1989 Trygve Haavelmo
1988 Maurice Allais
1987 Robert M. Solow
1986 James M. Buchanan Jr.
1985 Franco Modigliani
1984 Richard Stone
1983 Gerard Debreu
1982 George J. Stigler
1981 James Tobin
1980 Lawrence R. Klein
1979 Theodore W. Schultz, Sir Arthur Lewis
1978 Herbert A. Simon
1977 Bertil Ohlin, James E. Meade
1976 Milton Friedman
1975 Leonid Vitaliyevich Kantorovich, Tjalling C. Koopmans
1974 Gunnar Myrdal, Friedrich August von Hayek
1973 Wassily Leontief
1972 John R. Hicks, Kenneth J. Arrow
1971 Simon Kuznets
1970 Paul A. Samuelson
1969 Ragnar Frisch, Jan Tinbergen

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you?

18 posted on 02/08/2003 5:28:03 AM PST by LouD
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To: cq
Being a mathematician of sorts and someone doing simulation, I am intrigued by these concepts. Do you have a list of sites where one can read more about these models? I did a quick search at google for "Qualculus" but found nothing. Thanks in advance!
19 posted on 02/08/2003 5:30:12 AM PST by VoteHarryBrowne2000
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To: canuck_conservative
Speaking of Keynes, I saw this on the Onion:


20 posted on 02/08/2003 5:34:42 AM PST by cq
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