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NASA Still Considering Foam Launch Damage
Space.com ^ | 2/6/03 | Marcia Dunn

Posted on 02/06/2003 6:41:52 PM PST by Brett66

 

SPACE CENTER, Houston (AP) -- A day after all but ruling it out as a leading cause, NASA said Thursday that investigators are still considering whether a piece of insulating foam that struck Columbia's wing during liftoff was enough to bring down the shuttle.

Shuttle program manager Ron Dittemore said that even though the possibility appeared remote, investigators must remain open to every option as they put together a so-called fault tree into what caused Columbia's fiery breakup just minutes from its landing Saturday.

"The foam that shed off the tank and impacted the left wing is just one branch, and we are pursuing that,'' he said. ``Even though we scratch our heads, we're going to pursue it and we're going to pound it flat.''

Eighty-one seconds into launch, a 2 1/2-pound, 20-inch chunk of foam from Columbia's external fuel tank broke off and slammed into the underside of the shuttle's left wing.

The accident investigation board, led by retired Navy Adm. Harold Gehman Jr., arrived at Johnson Space Center on Thursday and met with Dittemore and other shuttle officials. NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe pledged from Washington that ``every single piece of evidence, every fact, every issue'' will be checked, and the board's conclusions will be final and absolute.

Before ruling the foam out as a culprit, NASA will be testing its impact on the thousands of fragile thermal tiles that cover each space shuttle. In addition, the entire analysis that was conducted during Columbia's flight is being redone ``to see if there was anything that we missed,'' he said.

On Monday, NASA officials had said the foam may well be ``the leading candidate'' for the cause of the accident. Two days later, Dittemore all but discounted the theory that it was the main cause, saying NASA computer simulations had shown the debris hit was not severe and could not have been the sole cause of the disaster.

Dittemore said the camera views of the flyaway foam during liftoff Jan. 16 could have been better. ``It's a disappointment that the camera with the very best view turned out to be out of focus,'' he said. ``We're just going to have to live with what we have.''

NASA also has not yet written off the possibility that other debris during launch might have damaged Columbia. Nothing else unusual was photographed, however.

Engineers taking part in NASA's so-called reverse analysis struggled Thursday to make sense of the eight minutes recorded between the time the first sign of trouble appeared aboard Columbia over California -- a surge in temperature in the left landing gear compartment -- and the shuttle's final, dying moment over Texas.

Most of the debris field has been in East Texas and Louisiana, but Dittemore said none of the shuttle parts considered crucial to the investigation had yet been found. He said reports of debris west of Texas, including in California, had not been confirmed as shuttle parts.

NASA has been swamped with reports of sightings, some of them caught on camera, of pieces coming off Columbia as it streaked across California. Dittemore said the reports have yet to be verified, and he stressed that all indications in Mission Control suggested no such breakup so far west.

Gehman, appointed by NASA to head the investigation board shortly following Saturday's accident, helped probe the 2000 terrorist attack on the USS Cole.

Meanwhile, in the nation's capital, Vice President Dick Cheney addressed a memorial service for the seven astronauts Thursday at the National Cathedral, where a stained glass window holds a piece of moon rock.

"They were soldiers and scientists and doctors and pilots, but above all they were explorers,'' Cheney said. ``They advanced human understanding by showing human courage.''


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: columbia; foam; nasa; shuttle
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Glad to hear they're not jumping to any conclusions.
1 posted on 02/06/2003 6:41:52 PM PST by Brett66
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To: Brett66
They kind of jump. They jump away from something before they ever disproved it.
2 posted on 02/06/2003 6:47:11 PM PST by Jael
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To: Jael
That's not true. If NASA was "jumping" away from the foam theory, then why would it be making plans to test foam impacts on the wing?
3 posted on 02/06/2003 6:49:35 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
This is what makes me sick about beurocracies. Hide and then if you are blatantly exposed to the truth and someone has to lose their job, then say maybe something might have happened. Sounds like Our ex vp.
4 posted on 02/06/2003 6:57:35 PM PST by mirkwood
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To: 1rudeboy
We can all relax, they just jumped back on it a little bit.
5 posted on 02/06/2003 7:01:05 PM PST by Jael
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To: mirkwood
Ok, then let's do a NASA-timeline on the foam issue. Yesterday, at the news conference, Ron Dittemore appeared to back away from foam being the "root cause" of the crash. Today, he stated that they are still examining the foam issue.

In other words, for your theory to hold, you have to assume that NASA fabricated its intention to hold foam tests in less than 24 hours.

6 posted on 02/06/2003 7:05:49 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Brett66
>>...``It's a disappointment that the camera with the very best view turned out to be out of focus,'' ...<<

These long range tracking telescopes are usually set at their hyperfocal distance. The operator does not track the launch thru the main objective, rather via a video camera attached to a shorter focal length lens piggyback on the main. A film camera is attached to the main tube.

So, he's not gonna be able to tell that the main is out of focus during the track.

There could be several reasons for the OOF condition. Operator sets focal distance wrong, engineer miscalculates setting, environmental conditions.

At least that's the way it was years ago when I worked there.

7 posted on 02/06/2003 7:07:49 PM PST by FReepaholic
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To: Brett66
I think that foam insulation has seen more turbulence after liftoff than during.
8 posted on 02/06/2003 7:14:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Click here for a view of the OMS pod tiles (700K)

It's common for the OMS pod tiles to get dinged up, but this looks worse than average.

9 posted on 02/06/2003 7:39:47 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Jael
I can see a lot of you have never had to diagnose an engineering problem. It's a messy process. The information comes in in a random and disordered fashion. Most of the time you have to go look for the information so you need educated hunches.

The process is actually facinating. Watch and learn.

10 posted on 02/06/2003 7:43:54 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: 1rudeboy
In other words, for your theory to hold, you have to assume that NASA fabricated its intention to hold foam tests in less than 24 hours.

It would be more "convenient" for some people if the shuttle was lost through errant space junk, meteor or other act of God.

11 posted on 02/06/2003 7:44:16 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
It looks like some old muddy water dripped on them, or they got pinged pretty good. Interesting hugh?
12 posted on 02/06/2003 7:47:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: mirkwood
This is what makes me sick about beurocracies. Hide and then if you are blatantly exposed to the truth and someone has to lose their job, then say maybe something might have happened.

Sigh. Tinfoilers on the march.

These engineers are damn good. I'm getting a little sick of nincompoop know-it-alls who really don't know the first thing about anything spouting off, throwing around allegations, slights, and distortions.

13 posted on 02/06/2003 7:51:12 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: Fitzcarraldo
I understand that much, but if one is to believe in such theories, one should at least make them viable.
14 posted on 02/06/2003 7:53:43 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jlogajan
Sigh. Tinfoilers on the march.

Amen....Free Republic is going through one of it's more disgraceful periods right now. Tinfoil rears it's head periodically here, but this situation is nigh unto out of hand....rather embarrassing.

15 posted on 02/06/2003 7:59:21 PM PST by ErnBatavia ((Bumperootus!))
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To: 1rudeboy
In other words, for your theory to hold, you have to assume that NASA fabricated its intention to hold foam tests in less than 24 hours.

I listened to Dittemore twice yesterday 2/5/03 and he said that the foam alone should not have caused the disaster but he did not say it didn't cause it. He also said yesterday they would be doing foam and tile tests. There was not press conference with Dittemore on Tuesday. Those press conferences are repeated 2 or 3 times a day on the NASA TV channel. Keep in mind the press is looking for a scapegoat so they can sell more papers.

16 posted on 02/06/2003 8:11:02 PM PST by tubebender (?)
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To: DoughtyOne
I've extracted just the parts of the previous image to show just the port and starboard OMS pods.

STS-107 Shuttle Mission Imagery

STS107-E-05353 (22 January 2003) --- SPACEHAB Research Double Module as seen from Columbia's aft flight deck. STS107-E-05353 (22 January 2003)

17 posted on 02/06/2003 8:29:15 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: _Jim; Howlin; RightWhale
Refer to post #17: Some of these tiles are badly pitted, some even have
what appears to be yellowish chunks (insulation foam?) actually buried in the tile. Also note black marks and
linear streaks on the pods.
18 posted on 02/06/2003 8:34:44 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: DoughtyOne
ping
19 posted on 02/06/2003 8:39:30 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Jael
They jump away from something before they ever disproved it.

Why?

That's the one thing that all these tinfoilhatters around here really haven't explained very well. Why would it be in NASA's interest to NOT find out why this shuttle burned up on re-entry?

Why?

20 posted on 02/06/2003 8:43:04 PM PST by Ramius
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