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Battle of the X-Planes (the JSF project)
NOVA ^ | Feb 4, 2003

Posted on 02/04/2003 7:29:39 PM PST by spetznaz

From 1996 to 2001, Boeing and Lockheed Martin produced rival designs and prototypes for the Joint Strike Fighter, a stealthy, affordable combat plane intended for the 21st century needs of the U.S. Air Force, Navy, and Marines. In "Battle of the X-Planes," NOVA goes behind the scenes to show the world's newest fighter taking shape, as Boeing and Lockheed Martin compete to win the largest contract in military history.

NOVA's film crew was part of a small group allowed into both camps, in the first-ever inside look at a Department of Defense weapons competition. The team filmed inside installations where cameras have never been allowed: the famous Skunk Works, where Lockheed Martin designed the celebrated U-2 and SR-71 spy planes, and Boeing's equally hush-hush Phantom Works.

The result is a fascinating glimpse of creative minds at work on one of the most difficult and potentially lucrative aeronautical projects ever undertaken, which is expected to earn the winner $200 billion, with the potential to earn up to $1 trillion over the life of the project. Many aviation experts believe the Joint Strike Fighter will be the last manned fighter built by the United States.

The program captures the clandestine world where amazing flying machines are hatched amid freewheeling brainstorming, cost-conscious compromising, and nervous speculation about what the other side has up its sleeve. It also chronicles hair-raising moments inside the cockpit, with a pilot's-eye view of the prototypes in flight.

The Joint Strike Fighter must meet the disparate needs of three different services. For the Air Force: an inexpensive, multi-role stealth fighter to replace the versatile but aging F-16. For the Navy: everything the Air Force gets, but with the durability to withstand operations at sea. For the Marines, the most daunting specs of all: a short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) fighter to support Marine operations virtually anywhere. No other fighter has ever had to serve so many different roles. The goal is to save billions of dollars with a family of aircraft having an overwhelming number of parts and systems in common.

But at the back of everyone's mind is the F-111, the Defense Department's previous foray into fighter commonality, which is widely regarded as a disaster. In the 1960s Defense Secretary Robert McNamara ordered the Air Force and Navy to collaborate on a new fighter-bomber. The severely compromised result left both services dissatisfied. The F-111 was subsequently dropped by the Navy and put into only limited operation by the Air Force. Pentagon managers are determined that things will be different this time.

Lockheed Martin's prototype, the X-35, draws on the company's experience designing the F-22 stealth fighter, which the X-35 resembles. By contrast, Boeing's X-32 has an unconventional appearance that reflects its simpler approach to the STOVL problem. While the Lockheed Martin X-35 has a traditional rear-mounted engine, with a separate lift fan mounted in front for vertical landings, the Boeing X-32 does the entire job with one engine. This power plant is placed in the center of the aircraft, which gives the X-32 its stubby, bat-like look.

The STOVL trials provide by far the most nail-biting moments of flight-testing, because any flaws in performance can send the plane plunging like a brick. But there are plenty of other dramatic moments, as the X-Planes battle it out for leadership in the fighter aircraft industry and the right to rule the skies wherever wars are fought.


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KEYWORDS: f35; harrier; jointstrikefighter; jsf; stealth; vtol; x32; yak141freestyle
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This is my opinion: Basically the program was a rather interesting (albeit a little 'skimmy' in that the left out some intricacies, but that is alright since it was never meant to be too technical). It potrayed the nerve-fraying ordeal that the two companies faced as they competed against one another to provide an aircraft that would meet the demands of the next-generation US and British aerial forces (USAF, USN, US Marines and RAF) pertinent to stealth, super-cruise, VTOL (the RAF and USMarines versions) and advanced air-superiority matrix supposed to be second only to the proposed F-22 Raptor.

As usual the competition was rife with a lot of political sycophany, as well as technical advances (and a couple of foul-ups that were not anticipated). And in the end the winner was declared (the Lockheed Martin F-35 JSF), which basically left the Boeing version out in the cold (even if it was an excellent aircraft).

Personally i was fine with the decision since the F-35(LM) had one key factor that put it above the F-32(Boeing). That factor was that during VTOL its fan system exuded air that was much cooler than that of the F-32 (or harrier for that matter). The latter 2 used engine exhaust to hover ...but the F-35 included cool air from the fan, which meant it was a lot safer. (Safer in that when landing on the Marine carrier any person beneath it would not be instantly turned into a crispy wafer ....which has happened in the past to unwary folks chilling beneath a landing harrier .....although what they were doing there is open to debate LOL)

Anyways i am glad with the choice since it is not controversial like the F-22 Raptor vs F-23 Black Widow, where the Raptor won even though the Black Widow was said to possess superior characteristics in everything but close-range maneuvering.

And the US and UK get a plane that is extremely capable (the F-35) and that, unlike the F-111 Advark, is capable of meeting every expectation and surpassing it.

I also believe that when it comes to VTOL aircraft that have actually flown it is the world's 4th VTOL fighter (the West's 2nd after the Harrier ....and the world's 4th after the Yak-48 Forger and the Yak-141 Freestyle). It is also the West's first supersonic VTOL jet (the Harrier was sub-sonic) and the World's second (Yak-141 being first).

All in all the JSF is the most advanced plane, after the F-22, and should be a vital asset in the air wings of any nation using it.

F-35

X-32 concept

1 posted on 02/04/2003 7:29:39 PM PST by spetznaz
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To: spetznaz
I mentioned some other aircraft in my post above and here are their pictures (those who know me know i am infamous for pics ....blame it on a hyper-fast ethernet internet uplink that i flaunt with unabated vivacity LOL).

F-22 Raptor:

F-23 Black Widow

Yak-48 (Basically a Soviet knockoff of the Harrier series that was not even nearly as good as the Harrier )

Yak-141 Freestyle (Now this was an aircraft that was formidable, however due to Russian money issues only a few have been made. However this aircraft, although it has the distinction of being the first supersonic VTOL jet, does not even come close to matching the JSF, meaning it is already obsolete ....unless it is facing Harriers. And even that is questionable because based on UK Falklands results British pilots were able to use the subsonic harriers to great effect .....and a harrier in the hands of a competent ...read UK or US ....pilot is still an extremely deadly aircraft)


2 posted on 02/04/2003 7:38:57 PM PST by spetznaz (When i say i am perfect people say i am arrogant .....but i am just being darn honest!)
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To: spetznaz
Sure hope they perform better than they look!! Them birds are UGLY!!!!
3 posted on 02/04/2003 7:39:37 PM PST by blastdad51
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To: spetznaz
That factor was that during VTOL its fan system exuded air that was much cooler than that of the F-32 (or harrier for that matter).

The drawback, too, was that Boeing's X-32 needed to be reconfigured (remove panels) for the fancy hovering/landing stuff....but the panels needed to be IN PLACE to go supersonic (but they promised to fix that, right?). The X-35 could go supersonic AND do the way cool Harrier-style landing in one easy flight.

I enjoyed the program....even if I already knew the "ending"!

4 posted on 02/04/2003 7:41:26 PM PST by ZinGirl
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To: VaBthang4; Gunrunner2; Jeff Head; swarthyguy; weikel; Poohbah; struwwelpeter; Alpha One; ...
Ping!
5 posted on 02/04/2003 7:41:40 PM PST by spetznaz (When i say i am perfect people say i am arrogant .....but i am just being darn honest!)
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That factor was that during VTOL its fan system exuded air that was much cooler than that of the F-32 (or harrier for that matter). The latter 2 used engine exhaust to hover ...but the F-35 included cool air from the fan, which meant it was a lot safer.

Well, there are two ports, fore and aft. The forward port is cool air, but he aft port is engine exhaust.

6 posted on 02/04/2003 7:42:08 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: blastdad51
true...Boeing's was hard to look at. hey, appearances count! I thought the F-35 was sharp-looking.
7 posted on 02/04/2003 7:43:24 PM PST by ZinGirl
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To: spetznaz
Actually, the BIG thing that put the LockMart design ahead was the fact that when the X-32 arrived at Patuxent River for the flyoff, its inlet design earned it the nickname "Monica."
8 posted on 02/04/2003 7:43:59 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah
LOL
9 posted on 02/04/2003 7:45:36 PM PST by spetznaz (When i say i am perfect people say i am arrogant .....but i am just being darn honest!)
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To: Poohbah
By the way, what do you think of the F-22 vs YF-23 thing?
10 posted on 02/04/2003 7:46:21 PM PST by spetznaz (When i say i am perfect people say i am arrogant .....but i am just being darn honest!)
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To: ZinGirl
Actually appearances matter a lot ...and the F-35 was better looking than the X-32 (although i liked the cockpit design on the X-32).
11 posted on 02/04/2003 7:49:36 PM PST by spetznaz (When i say i am perfect people say i am arrogant .....but i am just being darn honest!)
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To: spetznaz
The F-23 carried less ordnance (4 vs. 6 AMRAAMs) and probably wasn't as adaptable to an air-to-mud mission.

Another issue is that after the B-2 Billion Buck Bomber fiasco (with monthly price increases calculated by Northrop at no extra charge), there was no way in h-e-double-hockey-sticks that Congress was going to give the Air Farce the money to spend on turning the YF-23 into production hardware. Northrop's up-front cost projections for the B-2 had been SERIOUSLY off target, and that sort of thing is hard to live down.

Something about "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

12 posted on 02/04/2003 7:50:28 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: spetznaz
uh, yeah....which is just what I said in post #7. That Boeing thing was U G L Y. I believe they referred to that a few times in the program. Did you notice, too, the X-32 got REALLY ugly underneath after only a few flights?
13 posted on 02/04/2003 7:52:59 PM PST by ZinGirl
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To: spetznaz
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14 posted on 02/04/2003 7:57:05 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: spetznaz; CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; ...
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Ooops!

15 posted on 02/04/2003 7:57:43 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Bump.
16 posted on 02/04/2003 8:01:18 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: spetznaz; Gunrunner2
Now see Spetz...

You know I love you but this is what I am talking about.

You just used a Nova story on America's JSF to drop in some Russian desgns that are basically "crap".

The JSF is more advanced than even the F-15 which I am sure you'd agree would make quick work of the two Russian examples you listed.

You said: Yak-48 (Basically a Soviet knockoff of the Harrier series that was not even nearly as good as the Harrier )"

It was a laugher and everyone knew it. I know you know it...I'll assume you listed it as a cheesy example of incompetence when designing effective Vertical Takeoff and Landing aircraft.~Wink~

Then you said: "Yak-141 Freestyle (Now this was an aircraft that was formidable..."

Let me jump in here. No it wasnt! LOL...A harrier would destroy this plane. The Harrier can perform a million and one different functions at low speed...this russian crap cant. I appreciate their having a similar design as far using the rear nozzle as a lift but it was basically a huge gas guzzling VSTOL that could hit Mach. I have no doubt that it's agility was severely limited due to its size and feul requirements.

I'm gonna chalk this up to being another example of your seemingly endless overzealous desire to someway list a Russian aircraft design was discussing the cream of the crop. But it amounts to discussing a semi-pro football player while showing video of the NFL All-Pro team.

:o)

17 posted on 02/04/2003 8:02:09 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: spetznaz
bump
18 posted on 02/04/2003 8:04:01 PM PST by Centurion2000 (The question is not whether you're paranoid, but whether you're paranoid enough.)
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To: Poohbah
From what I've seen the JSF will be a great plane. The only downside I've seen is that its single engine. Around the boat, and in combat, that's a minus.
19 posted on 02/04/2003 8:04:11 PM PST by Magnum44 (remember the Challenger 7, remember the Columbia 7, and never forget 9-11)
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To: ZinGirl
I think you hit the nail on the head. I too watched the program and enjoyed it capitally (though I must admit to looking up the ending soon after the film began), and I believe the final factors for the Pentagon's selection of Lockheed were two-fold:

(a) the Lockheed craft was able to land vertically AND exceed Mach with the same configuration.
(b) the Boeing craft was butt-ugly.

20 posted on 02/04/2003 8:05:29 PM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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