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California: Police see higher vehicle license fees as lifeline (
The Contra Costa Times ^
| Tue, Feb. 04, 2003
| Guy Ashley CONTRA COSTA TIMES
Posted on 02/04/2003 6:25:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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OAKLAND - Gathered in the eerily quiet lobby of the North County Jail -- closed last year because of budget cuts -- grim-faced law enforcement officials Monday said raising the state's vehicle license fee is the only way to ensure basic police protection is preserved.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budgetcrisis; calgov2002; california; davis; policeneeds
To: *calgov2002; snopercod; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Gophack; RonDog; ElkGroveDan; ...
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posted on
02/04/2003 6:26:20 PM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Impeach Gray Davis! (Disregard for now - he is still useful;) OK Recall him!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Of course they cut police; but will they touch the teachers' unions, or Fish and Game?
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posted on
02/04/2003 6:33:33 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: Carry_Okie
It is going to get real, real interesting!
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posted on
02/04/2003 6:35:42 PM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Impeach Gray Davis! (Disregard for now - he is still useful;) OK Recall him!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Boot Hill
BTW, when they cut sheriff's departments, then they'll say that they're too expensive and can SAVE MONEY relying upon regional police. Your last lifeline to an elected law enforcement officer, accountable to your Constitutional rights, will be gone.
Never let it be said that the Slave Party doesn't know how to take advantage of a budget crisis by putting the screws to the taxpayer.
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posted on
02/04/2003 6:36:22 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We need Tom McClintock....now!
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posted on
02/04/2003 6:36:43 PM PST
by
ErnBatavia
((Bumperootus!))
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gathered in the eerily quiet lobby of the North County Jail -- closed last year because of budget cuts -- grim-faced law enforcement officials Monday said raising the state's vehicle license fee is the only way to ensure basic police protection is preserved. Police do not have a legal obligation to protect individuals, as demonstrated by court decisions. So, more funds does not necessarily translate to more protection of individuals (although it may translate to more police and as a byproduct, help the donut and coffee shop industry). Expand the budget cuts and let people buy more guns. More guns, less crime.
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posted on
02/04/2003 6:55:50 PM PST
by
SteveH
(more police, more sidewalk blood moppers)
To: Carry_Okie
Never let it be said that the Slave Party doesn't know how to take advantage of a budget crisis by putting the screws to the taxpayer. Amen to that!
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posted on
02/04/2003 7:01:10 PM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Impeach Gray Davis! (Disregard for now - he is still useful;) OK Recall him!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
'"A literal breakdown is coming," said Alameda County Sheriff Charles Plummer.'
I think there's a spelling issue there. I think it should read "A liBeral breakdown is coming.
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posted on
02/04/2003 8:07:36 PM PST
by
Chu Gary
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; EBUCK; blackie; dixiechick2000; SAMWolf
Same old fear tactics that the state of Oregon used/is using in trying to get their massive tax/fee increases in.
Oregon is actually freeing criminals after their left wing lost their stealth tax increase referendum/vote.
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posted on
02/05/2003 5:22:31 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
To: Grampa Dave
The beauracrats in Oregon have declared war on the taxpayers. We won't give them more of our tax dollars so they're cutting essential services rather the th BS pet projects that Government isn't supposed to be doing anyway.
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posted on
02/05/2003 5:52:10 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
To: SAMWolf
Well, we have the same threats being issued at us by the rats.
Apparently this vehicle triple the fees thing is doa in the water. Davis has backed away do to some promises to him by some strong and conservative Republicans in our state senate. On the senate floor Monday, 3 Febuary.
It is going to be a bloody war in the three West Coast states as they try to tax us into socialist hell.
We need to keep each other posted on what is going on our state as the lefties in the other two states will try the same BS.
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posted on
02/05/2003 6:06:06 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
To: Grampa Dave
"Oregon is actually freeing criminals after their left wing lost their stealth tax increase referendum/vote."Great, they make good targets! :)
Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!
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posted on
02/05/2003 10:34:11 AM PST
by
blackie
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here's what they could do, and increase revenues and safety both together. Require a CDL [Commercial Driver's License] for anyone who operates a vehicle over 3000 pounds curb weight. Another thing they could do is enforce the law with a special emphasis on moving violations. With a CDL, you will lose your license for just about any trivial infraction of the law. It's strict, it's tough, and it's expensive and requires special driving skill and knowledge to get in the first place. No exemption for light trucks or SUVs.
To: blackie
So the police are holding citizens hostage with the threat of extortion and reduced protection if they don't jack up their own taxes for them. Its too bad we can't arrest them for doing something which would get a private individual thrown in prison if he attempted to do the same thing. As usual one set of laws for the elite and another set of laws for every one else. Why do you think an otherwise middle class guy like Tony Soprano justifies breaking the law? According to him hey if the government doesn't respect its own laws they don't have a right to hold me accountable if I look out for my own interests. Thanks to California law enforcement we're getting to the point where law abiding citizens might have to fall back on their own devices to keep themselves safe. Its no thanks to government officials who act like we owe them a peasants' tribute instead of acting like the public servants they're supposed to be.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That is not true...below is a paragraph taken from an e-mail received from Tom McClintock...go to his web site and find more information.
Last week, local government officials said they already were reducing police and fire protection. Thats not because of the car tax.
In fact, local governments have never lost even a penny of revenue in the five years since the car tax was first reduced. It would take a majority of the legislature to do so, and before the local government horror stories are given any credence, I challenge them to name even one legislator who supports such a measure.
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posted on
02/05/2003 10:48:26 AM PST
by
Burlem
To: Grampa Dave
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posted on
02/05/2003 12:27:23 PM PST
by
EBUCK
(FIRE!....rounds downrange!)
To: goldstategop
The bureaucrats are in control and they have taken over!
Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!
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posted on
02/05/2003 12:46:57 PM PST
by
blackie
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