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Danger: Free speech at work
Washington Times ^ | Sunday, December 29, 2002 | Edwin J. Feulner

Posted on 12/29/2002 7:21:12 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:59:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

If images of people being persecuted for "thought crimes" strike you as the stuff of science fiction ? or, at worst, something that happened when communism was at its height and jackboots were storming Europe ? get ready for a wake-up call.


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Sunday, December 29, 2002

Quote of the Day by kayak

1 posted on 12/29/2002 7:21:12 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Such censorship of free speech already exists in the US--just try to espouse Christian or conservative views in any ivy league school or major university.
2 posted on 12/29/2002 7:32:15 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: JohnHuang2
When I finished reading paragraph three I had to look back at the header to make sure this wasn't something from the Onion. This is the spookiest thing I've read in a long time. "Diversity Directorate?" Stalin would be proud.

America's Fifth Column ... watch Steve Emerson/PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
New Link: Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)

Who is Steve Emerson?

3 posted on 12/29/2002 7:37:03 AM PST by JCG
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To: JohnHuang2
Cressida Dick

If I ever write a 1984-type novel, I just found the villain's name.

4 posted on 12/29/2002 7:38:16 AM PST by Trickyguy
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To: JohnHuang2
If I were a queer, these draconian efforts to 'protect' homos would scare the bejeezus out of me.

That, because I know that these edicts will breed a backlash that combines outrage at totalitarian injustice with a natural loathing of perversion.

And that will eventually prove to be a lethal blend for those who hitch-hike the Hershey Highway...

Prescription for a longer life, with greatly increased odds of a natural conclusion...

Don’t mess with Mother Nature.

And don’t ally yourself with those who do.

5 posted on 12/29/2002 7:42:01 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: The Great RJ; AAABEST; TonyWojo
Suppression of free speech is alive and well in Florida too! While visiting the great state of Florida with the Klamath/Sawgrass Rebellion, we had a couple of episodes. The one that really got my goat was the one where the cop tried to tell us that not more than 5 people could assemble was handed back to the LEO as what part of the 1st amendment contains only five people shall be able to peacefully assemble?

Scary when LEO's get PC for a religion and forget about the Constitution.

6 posted on 12/29/2002 7:42:49 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: JohnHuang2
I, for one, applaud your bulldog tenacity in defense of our "First Amendment" rights. It is the responsibility of readers to amplify and disseminate this message. We must awaken the slumbering populace. This is no easy task and I am sure that all of you fellow-patriots share my feelings of frustration when our anguished cries of desperation appear to fall on deaf ears.
7 posted on 12/29/2002 7:54:11 AM PST by Focused Fury
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To: JohnHuang2
Government isn't the only censor,
You can lose your job in a heart beat for use of a whole list of words.
(Entirely without consideration of context or intent).
We're about as free as lab mice and we did it to ourselves.
8 posted on 12/29/2002 8:19:01 AM PST by norton
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To: JohnHuang2; All
Defend free speech, sign the petition to defund PBS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/813574/posts

Petition and discussion thread.
9 posted on 12/29/2002 8:41:08 AM PST by Sparta
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To: JohnHuang2
Associated Press
November 5, 2002

A woman who spent four days in a northern Michigan jail for making an anti-Hispanic slur has had her conviction overturned by the state Court of Appeals.

Janice Barton, now 47, was charged and convicted under Manistee's law against engaging in insulting conduct in public.

The appeals court did not declare the law unconstitutional, but it did say it was vague as applied to Barton. "It's about time," the Manistee woman told The Grand Rapids Press when she learned Monday that the appeals court had thrown out the conviction. "I knew it was going to happen."

Authorities say Barton made an insulting statement about Hispanics in a Manistee restaurant four years ago.

The ordinance that Barton was convicted of breaking reads: "No person shall engage in any indecent, insulting, immoral or obscene conduct in any public place."

"In effect, without fair warning, (Barton) was charged with, and convicted for, conduct that she could not reasonably have known was criminal," Judges E. Thomas Fitzgerald, Donald Holbrook Jr. and Mark Cavanagh wrote in the unanimous opinion.

The judges made some comparisons to the case of the Arenac County "cussing canoeist," Joseph Boomer.

In April, the appeals court struck down a state law against using vulgar language in front of women and children.

"Allowing a prosecution where one utters 'insulting' language could possibly subject a vast percentage of the populace to a misdemeanor conviction," the judges in the Manistee case said last week, quoting the Boomer decision.

As she was a leaving the Pepper Mill, a Manistee restaurant, in August 1998, Barton heard a Spanish-speaking man ask his wife to make room.

Barton, who does not understand Spanish, then said to her mother: "I wish these (expletives) would learn to speak English," authorities say.

Off-duty police Officer Carol Benitez followed Barton to her car and reported her to authorities.

At Barton's trial, jurors were told they could convict her if they believed the words were "fighting words" intended "to incite violence or an immediate breach of the peace."

She was sentenced to 45 days in the Manistee County Jail, though the punishment was later trimmed and she served four days.

She said she has no regrets using a word considered a slur against Hispanics.

"I was quite shocked at the charge," said Barton. "I wasn't talking to them; I was talking to my mother."

The Manistee County Prosecutor's Office did not file documents during the appeal defending the conviction.

Barton attorney Matthew Posner of Suttons Bay had said the vagueness of the Manistee ordinance invites "arbitrary and discriminatory" enforcement by police and courts.

"Just imagine the potential for discriminatory arrests at a high-school football game or an adult tavern for what a given officer deems to be 'insulting conduct,"' Posner wrote.

10 posted on 12/29/2002 9:06:43 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: JohnHuang2
Oceana has apparently been founded. What can the British have on their minds, if you'll forgive the overstatement?
11 posted on 12/29/2002 9:48:02 AM PST by Marauder
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To: JohnHuang2
"People should not have to go through life being subjected to abuse because of who they are or what they believe in."


I guess that depends who you are. How ironic.
12 posted on 12/29/2002 10:43:01 AM PST by COKE623
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To: norton
Government isn't the only censor, You can lose your job in a heart beat for use of a whole list of words. (Entirely without consideration of context or intent).

As far as your right to free speech is concerned, government is the only censor that counts. The government is the only entity that can use force to stifle what you want to say.

Employers may also have speech codes, but unless you have an employment contract protecting you, they are well within their rights as property owners to enforce those codes.

13 posted on 12/29/2002 11:04:18 AM PST by timm22
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bttt
14 posted on 12/29/2002 2:18:57 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: JohnHuang2
One of my son's teacher is upset with him and me,because we told her that her opinions of communism were wrong.Seems she thinks that communism was a good idea managed by the wrong folks.
15 posted on 12/29/2002 4:34:57 PM PST by Captain Shady
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To: Arthur Koestler
Welcome to FR! Long as I'm alive, I will contend that the 1st amendment was/is about protecting offensive speech. Jefferson knew without active debate that we would be subject to today's PC BS. Offensive deosn't refer to the words - it's about the message that they carry.
17 posted on 12/29/2002 6:39:25 PM PST by Issaquahking
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To: timm22
Agreed, employers are within their rights but it is censorship nonetheless and does constitute a bar on your rights as a citizen - particularly when it is enforced only on one direction.

I only address the fact, not the legitimacy or rationale supporting it.

Where I disagree with you is the "only government counts" part. While it is the government that has set the basis for work-site censorship it is my employer that I interact with daily. So it is the employer who has most direct and immediate affect on me, again, regardless of the rationale or impetus.

19 posted on 12/30/2002 9:11:36 AM PST by norton
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To: timm22
Agreed, employers are within their rights but it is censorship nonetheless and does constitute a bar on your rights as a citizen - particularly when it is enforced only on one direction.

I only address the fact, not the legitimacy or rationale supporting it.

Where I disagree with you is the "only government counts" part. While it is the government that has set the basis for work-site censorship it is my employer that I interact with daily. So it is the employer who has most direct and immediate affect on me, again, regardless of the rationale or impetus.

20 posted on 12/30/2002 9:11:40 AM PST by norton
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