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BACKSTORY: JOE (I'll-Say-Anything-to-Win) LIEBERMAN (longshot presidential candidate)
Washington Times | 9/11/00 | George Archibald

Posted on 12/17/2002 12:49:57 PM PST by Liz

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is a staunch supporter of abortion rights now, and even voted against a ban on partial-birth abortion, but Catholic leaders in Connecticut remember another Joe Lieberman.

He called on the state's archbishop with a pro-life pledge 12 years ago, when he was first a candidate for the U.S. Senate, and even told pro-life leaders he would have voted to confirm Judge Robert Bork for the U.S. Supreme Court.

Mr. Lieberman met with Archbishop John F. Whealon of Hartford to seek Catholic votes in the final stretch of his 1988 Democratic bid to oust 18-year Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr., a Republican who supported abortion rights, from the U.S. Senate.

"Joe was very liberal, like Weicker, but we had a poll on abortion that showed which way the wind was blowing," says Daniel Cosgrove, then the Democratic town chairman in Branford, Mr. Lieberman's hometown. The poll showed anti-abortion sentiment outweighed pro-choice views in urban areas throughout Connecticut. "In the Waterbury area, it was more than any, 12,000 [more] against," Mr. Cosgrove says.

Records of a meeting between Mr. Lieberman and top officials of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) two months after the 1988 election quote Mr. Lieberman as saying he "thinks there are too many abortions," and promisinghe would not "apply a litmus test" against pro-life judicial nominees.

Archbishop Whealon has since died, but his former secretary, Father Thomas Berry, says he remembers the 1988 meeting where Mr. Lieberman "expressed himself as coming from a tradition in support of life, not in favor of abortion on demand."

"He expressed himself against abortion, all suicide, and euthanasia. His position on that definitely was well received by the archbishop and priests," Father Berry says.

A spokesman for Mr. Lieberman says Mr. Cosgrove's memory of the meeting with the archbishop "is not accurate," and says Mr. Lieberman has been consistently pro-choice. Mr. Cosgrove says he and state Sen. Regina Smith, who conducted the pro-life poll for the archdiocese, arranged for

Mr. Lieberman, then the state attorney general, to meet with the Catholic prelate before the election to lay out his support for Catholic pro-life positions, which Mr. Weicker had actively opposed.

The strategy worked, Mr. Cosgrove says. Mr. Lieberman convinced the archbishop he favored pro-life positions and would vote differently than Mr. Weicker, thus winning Catholic support that pushed him to a narrow 10,000-vote victory — the only Democratic Senate upset of that year.

With Republican Vice President George Bush outpolling Democrat Michael S. Dukakis by almost 100,000 votes in Connecticut's presidential balloting that year, Mr. Lieberman's strategic appeal for pro-life votes countered the

Republican tide that otherwise might have benefited Mr. Weicker, Mr. Cosgrove says. Mr. Lieberman's winning margin was less than 1 percent of 1.4 million votes. Mr. Lieberman, an orthodox Jew, has defended his record, saying Jewish law is so deeply divided on the issue of abortion that even among orthodox Jews it may be construed as "a personal matter." The senator's spokesman, Dan Gerstein, insists there was no meeting between Mr. Lieberman and the archbishop before the 1988 election. "No one on staff at the time can remember a meeting with Archbishop Whealon during the campaign.

He had a private meeting with the archbishop after the election," the spokesman said. "Mr. Cosgrove's recollection of what was said at the meeting also is not accurate," Mr. Gerstein said. Mr. Lieberman "never said he would limit a woman's right to choose, that he would vote to ban abortion or to overturn Roe v. Wade."

The Supreme Court, in that 1973 case, held that a woman had a constitutional right to an abortion in certain circumstances. Mr. Lieberman has voted consistently pro-choice, both as a Connecticut state senator and U.S. senator, since his first elective office in 1970, Mr. Gerstein said.

Father Berry, now assigned to St. Mary's Parish in Newington, Conn., says Mr. Lieberman presented himself as a clear pro-life alternative, saying, "He was not an abortion activist as Senator Weicker was . . . and said his approach would be different."

In fact, Mr. Lieberman's pro-life assurances were so convincing that Archbishop Whealon arranged for the Democratic candidate to meet with Catholic priests throughout the state shortly before the November 1988 balloting. Mr. Lieberman's expressed pro-life views in those meetings, Father Berry said. "That probably was not insignificant" in the November 1988 election outcome, he said.

Two months after the election, Mr. Lieberman and key staff aides again met with pro-life leaders in Washington and assured them he was an ally, says Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).

Mr. Lieberman said he would have voted to confirm Judge Bork to the Supreme Court had he been a member of the Senate during the confirmation hearings, according to written minutes of the meeting with Dr. Jack C. Willke, then the NRLC head, and Regina Smith, Connecticut's representative to the group.

Judge Bork, who was eventually denied confirmation, testified in Senate hearings that he would have voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. Mr. Lieberman "would have voted for Bork, under whom he studied" at Yale University law school, according to the meeting notes taken by Mr. Johnson.

The notes quoted Mr. Lieberman as saying: "I'm not going to vote against a judicial nominee just because he's pro-life. I'm not going to apply a litmus test."

Mr. Lieberman acknowledged there was disagreement among his own new Senate staff on the abortion issue, the notes show: "He thinks there are too many abortions, but many disagree, women will have them anyway. He is unsettled, ambivilent [sic]. Some staff on both sides. Always access to him or top staff, will be heard respectfully. Regina is great. Continue dialog." ####


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Joe (I Led Three Lives) Lieberman can run but he can't hide. Finessing the abortion issue wins you few friends and lots of very astute enemies.

In 2000, "Joey" (or as his wife calls him "my Joey" - I'm not kidding) ran for the Senate and VP simultaneously, conducting a lackluster VP campaign, and his past life as a Clintonesque political operator came back to haunt him. He said he was "troubled" by Clinton's conduct but he voted against impeachment.

A Nexis search found Lieberman said "troubled" over 1200 times in his published remarks. Lieberman was promoted as the "holier-than-thou" candidate, but the so-called "conscience of the Senate," immediately began betraying his "moral" positions in order to shoehorn himself into the Gore campaign.

It was embarrassing watching his campaign forays - he drew sparse audiences and displayed an arrogant "I-am-better-than-thou" attitude.

Let's see how longshot "Joey" explains away his abortion history.

1 posted on 12/17/2002 12:49:57 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
If America wanted this type of guy as president we would have elected him:


2 posted on 12/17/2002 12:53:32 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
Not a chance.
3 posted on 12/17/2002 12:56:14 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
There isn't enough space to rehash all LIEberman's flip flops. Out right lies. Position changes.

As a woman who grew up in an orthodox jewish home I can tell you that this man would be far more comfortable in the reform branch of judaism because he follows NONE of the tenets of orthodox judaism.

4 posted on 12/17/2002 1:07:17 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: Liz
Maybe Al Bore will run as Losermans VP!
5 posted on 12/17/2002 1:14:45 PM PST by Recon by Fire
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To: Liz
Can you imagine four years of having to listen to that voice?! I predict that if Lieberman was to ever become President, the suicide rate would skyrocket.
6 posted on 12/17/2002 1:20:28 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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Can you imagine four years of having to listen to that voice?

Joe looks and talks like the before part of a before and after advertisment for Gas-X.

7 posted on 12/17/2002 1:43:14 PM PST by Blue Screen of Death
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To: Blue Screen of Death
Yesterday, when he was talking about possibly running, it was as if I was being forced to watch a bucket of water evaporate.
8 posted on 12/17/2002 1:47:02 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: OldFriend
As far as I see it there were no flip-flops Joe always reliably walks liberal party line. He talks a lot about different positions but by end of the dat he always ends up in the same place.

Right between talking and walking he makes his master act of hand-wringing, where he is an undefeated world champion, indeed. However, this act is getting long in the tooth and I hope soon American public would stop paying attention to anything he says.

9 posted on 12/17/2002 2:08:41 PM PST by alex
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To: Paul Atreides
.........and you'd be right.......

Not only the whining voice, but that hapless mush face.....(think Mortimer Snerd).

10 posted on 12/17/2002 2:14:48 PM PST by Liz
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To: Recon by Fire
Heheh. That would be a beaut of a ticket.
11 posted on 12/17/2002 2:16:10 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Joe Lieberman should balance his ticket by choosing another Al to run with him. Who? Why Al Sharpton of course. Think of the diversity this ticket would represent. The voters in Manhattan and Florida would just go wild with this ticket.
12 posted on 12/17/2002 2:22:40 PM PST by meenie
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To: Liz
Have you ever seen Joe Lieberman walk?

He lists to port and seems to scurry like a 2year old toddler rather than walk.

Does anyone know why?

13 posted on 12/17/2002 2:26:34 PM PST by J. Semper Paratus
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To: meenie
LOL. Sharpton and dullard Lieberman. Watta combo.
14 posted on 12/17/2002 2:59:05 PM PST by Liz
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To: J. Semper Paratus
Scurries? Probably trying to run from the many people he's deceived like those in the news report above.
15 posted on 12/17/2002 3:00:45 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
If Lieberman is the "conscience of the Senate," then it must be located just aft of the rectum of the Senate.
16 posted on 12/17/2002 3:08:41 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: BenLurkin
Listen here Ben, Pat Paulson was a fine American. He at least had a spine unlike the Gumby like loserman. I enjoyed seeing him run time after time in his satirical way. Mr. Paulson died a few years ago from what I remember.
17 posted on 12/17/2002 3:32:12 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: alex
For vouchers, against vouchers.......etc. etc. It's all old news.
18 posted on 12/17/2002 4:10:41 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Heheh. Good one.
19 posted on 12/18/2002 5:33:05 AM PST by Liz
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To: NYpeanut; texasbluebell; reformed_democrat; rintense; The Old Hoosier; kitkat; knoxienne; mhking; ..
..............Longshot Lieberman ping...............
20 posted on 12/19/2002 10:21:09 AM PST by Liz
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