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Bullies: How to deal with them
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Posted on 12/07/2002 4:11:23 PM PST by ambrose

Bullies: How to deal with them

BY STACY L. NEITZEL/Times Staff Writer

The early 1990's were characterized as a decade riddled with youth violence, according to a recent surgeon general's report on the subject.

And only now, in light of an alarming number of school shootings are educators starting to pay more attention to the problems associated with bullying.

"We've known about bullying for years," said Dr. Bill Pfohl, professor of psychology at Western Kentucky University and a licensed psychologist specializing in childhood and adolescent problems.

"It is very different than it was 20 years ago," he said, explaining that bullies have become younger in recent years, effectively moving from the high and junior high schools to the elementary school level.

Another noticeable change over the last two decades is the rapidly growing number of female bullies. "Female violence is the fastest growing group," said Pfhol, who said girls in particular are guilty of verbal bullying which can be both "vicious" and "personal."

The old conjecture about bullies acting out because of low self-esteem may be inaccurate, according to recent studies. "It is absolutely false. If anything, these folks have an inflated sense of self-esteem," said Pfhol.

Conversely, victims tend to be revictimized because of their dissimilar personality characteristics as compared with the aggressor. "Kids who are bullied, tend to get bullied a lot," said Pfhol, who said bullying usually starts out as emotional abuse and can eventually escalate to physical abuse.

He said if left unchecked, it can have far reaching implications. "Kids can become aggressive," he continued. "About half of all kids involved in school shootings were at one point the victim of a bully."

Bill Bond, the former principal of Heath High School, has retired since the Paducah school shooting more than five years ago that left three dead and five more wounded after Michael Carneal opened fire on a prayer group.

In his current role as a school safety consultant for the National Association of Secondary School Prin-cipals, Bond speaks to school administrators throughout the U.S. on preventing future school shootings.

A few common themes run through virtually every shooting, said Bond. The shooter almost always tells someone what he plans to do, and he almost always believes he is being picked on or bullied, Bond told a Courier Journal reporter in a recent article.

While few cases of being bullied lead to murder, experts say the experience could harm a child's emotional well-being resulting in depression, anxiety, or in the most serious of cases, suicide.

It is a serious issue that can lead to emotional disorders, suggests Ron Davis M.D. and trustee of the American Medical Association (AMA).

But too often, both parents and educators are not receptive to the complaints of the victims of bullies, said Pfhol. "Kids used to have someone to talk it over with. Now they may find themselves without resources because families are either too busy or don't take it seriously."

However slowly, attitudes are beginning to change as schools implement bullying policies, a set of guidelines for dealing with aggressive behavior while offering peer mediation.

Other schools have taken a proactive approach with programs aimed at curtailing bullying before it begins.

School districts need to address this issue from the top on down, said Pfhol.

Davis offers the following dialogue as published in the current December issue of RedBook magazine to determine if your child may be the victim of a bully.

Ask, Are you teased a lot a school and if so, what do you get teased about?

Have you ever told a teacher about being teased? What was done about it?

At recess, do you usually play with other children or by yourself?

Do other kids call you a not-so-friendly nickname?

The dialogue offers parents a chance to talk to their children- and open communication, insists Pfhol, is the first step and is key to helping bullied victims cope.


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1 posted on 12/07/2002 4:11:23 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Calling Tom Daschle! He needs to read this.
2 posted on 12/07/2002 4:16:10 PM PST by Mark
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To: ambrose
As I know in third grade getting picked on by Fifth Graders (which were scary at the time) You Must Fight Back!, It was a big undertaking by me, but it worked! And all of a sudden they were my best Bud's. It's the only True Way IMHO....., Crying to the Teacher Ain't Gonna Work.......
3 posted on 12/07/2002 4:21:49 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: ambrose
As I know in third grade getting picked on by Fifth Graders (which were scary at the time) You Must Fight Back!, It was a big undertaking by me, but it worked! And all of a sudden they were my best Bud's. It's the only True Way IMHO....., Crying to the Teacher Ain't Gonna Work.......
4 posted on 12/07/2002 4:22:22 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: ambrose
"...proactive approach ... aimed at curtailing bullying..."

Take the bully down to the locker room and beat the dog f*** out of him. Whoops, silly me, this is the year 2002, and they obviously don't really want to curtail bullying.
My apologies to all the forward thinking educators out there...not.
5 posted on 12/07/2002 4:25:20 PM PST by VMI70
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To: Mark
Oh pooh on this latest victimology. I was taught that if a bully does not physically assault you, then walk away. If he/she throws a punch, then fight back. But, no person can get into your head without permission from you. This advise has always worked well for me, without social worker intervention. LOL
6 posted on 12/07/2002 4:30:55 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: ambrose
"It is very different than it was 20 years ago," he said, explaining that bullies have become younger in recent years, effectively moving from the high and junior high schools to the elementary school level.

Wonder who funded this crap and how much you and I had to pay for it. Bullying has always existed since the start of time and the only way to combat it is to fight back. Only wish I had the confidence I have now back then. But then, that is what life's experiences are all about........

7 posted on 12/07/2002 4:32:28 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: zcat
Wonder who funded this crap and how much you and I had to pay for it. Bullying has always existed since the start of time and the only way to combat it is to fight back. Only wish I had the confidence I have now back then. But then, that is what life's experiences are all about........

One study that might actually be of interest is to track the development of the bullies vs the bullied and see who winds out ahead in the game of life.

8 posted on 12/07/2002 4:38:25 PM PST by ambrose
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To: cmsgop; Conservababe
I used both of your methadologies.
As a much smaller than average child I learned to ignore words and fight back to LEAVE A VISABLE MARK on the person trying to bully me. I had no chance to actually win the fight.
The other kids would see the mark and ask about it. When questioned the bully would have to fess up that it was me that did the damage. All the other kids would then laugh at them and would say, "That little sh!t did that to you? You must be a wuss."
I lost a lot of battles but the war was won by the time I entered high school.
All the potential bullies KNEW they could whup on me. They also knew I WOULD leave a visable mark and it just wasn't worth it to them.
9 posted on 12/07/2002 4:40:19 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Just another Joe
In Jr. High there was this dude that thought he was God's gift to the athletic world... all the foxes (I'm talking about the late 70s here) always hung around him.

This dude use to get a kick out of knocking the books out of the non-cool kids hands. Needless to say, I was one of the non-cool kids.

I never forgot about this P.O.S.

I attended my 10 year high school reunion (Denton High - Denton, TX) back in 1994. I saw this same dude. What a sweet surprise all us "nerds" received. I was about 6 inches taller than him and he turned out to be a fat slob with a badly receeding hair line. The ladies had nothing to flock to any more.

I didn't say a word to the turd, I just looked at him and laughed (only on the inside).

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88; watch out t.u.... we're going to throw some competition at you on fall Saturdays.

10 posted on 12/07/2002 4:52:54 PM PST by Trajan88
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To: ambrose
How to deal with a bully:

1. Stand up to him.

2. See (1)

Real complicated.

11 posted on 12/07/2002 5:09:43 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Just another Joe
Okay, I am interested. Did you do a "zorro" on him to leave your visible physical mark? LOL
12 posted on 12/07/2002 5:46:25 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: ambrose
Funny you should mention this. Just this week my 8yr old girl was crying about getting soccer balls bounced off her head at recess. As usual, the adults don't give a s**t. Her 15yr old brother and I gave her some advice. She ended up punching the kid in the eye, and when she realized she didn't hit him hard enough, she smacked him in the nose. He hit the ground with that punch, and now he runs when he sees her. Hey, I've given this advice to all my kids. Teachers don't want to be bothered, don't depend on them to keep you safe. Kick ass and take names the first time, then you can enjoy school :)
13 posted on 12/07/2002 6:10:55 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: ambrose
One study that might actually be of interest is to track the development of the bullies vs the bullied and see who winds out ahead in the game of life.

The Wall St Journal recently had an article in which a journalist tracked down the bully who had tormented him throughout childhood. I was terribly disappointed in the story, but the WSJ got a lot of reader mail praising it, so maybe I missed something.

The short answer: The bully died in his 30's. He was alone, without friends or resources. A shattered shell of a man. Now, if you're looking for any sense of Karma, that the guy got what was coming to him, I think you need to read the Long answer, to find out if bullying can pay off later in life.

The long answer: The bully never stopped bullying people. He went into construction and became rich and successful. He was a horrible boss, but he got the jobs done, and apparently his customers appreciated this. He had fancy clothes, fancy cars, a big income, and lots of women. He was riding high until -- one of the women gave him AIDS. He got sick, lost his money and died.

Now, is this evidence that bullies get what's coming to them? Or is it evidence that bullies can make out pretty well in our society -- unless they catch a communicable disease?

14 posted on 12/07/2002 6:16:07 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Now, is this evidence that bullies get what's coming to them? Or is it evidence that
bullies can make out pretty well in our society -- unless they catch a communicable disease?


I've not yet developed a "unified field theory" on justice for bullies.
As for now, I sort of go with this point of view:

Matthew 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven:
for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good,
and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.



I must admit that as one of the nerds who took a lot of abuse...and was depressed
when I would finally obtain peace only by finally striking back against
the "little Hitlers", I find I have to restrain myself at feeling even mild delight
when a bully "gets it good".


I have a professional colleague who I might call a certified "b-tch"; when I heard
she has a bad case of breast cancer, my first inner thought was "there is a G-d and some justice".

I have been chastizing myself for even thinking such a thing.
15 posted on 12/07/2002 6:29:34 PM PST by VOA
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To: Conservababe
Okay, I am interested. Did you do a "zorro" on him to leave your visible physical mark? LOL

Just did whatever had to be done. Black eye, split lip, Bruise on the cheek. Something, ANYTHING visable.
Literally gave myself a concussion one time with a head butt to the other guys chin so I could give him a split lip.

16 posted on 12/07/2002 7:42:46 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: cmsgop
I agree, teachers believe that they are just children. Pity gets the best of them and they do not punish bullies like they should. Thus over the years, nothing changes.
Those who get bullied can do things like Jonesboro and Columbine, or go into what I did: Depression.

I believe that teachers need to crack down on bullying. Zero tolerance is ridiculous because it punishes the wrong people.
17 posted on 12/07/2002 7:49:51 PM PST by VW_Mafia_Audi
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