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Study Begins on Confederate Warship
Herald Tribune ^ | November 01. 2002 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/01/2002 6:42:37 AM PST by stainlessbanner

SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) - The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has begun an investigation of how to save the remains of the sunken confederate warship CSS Georgia.

What is left of the boat now lies in the path of a planned $200 million expansion of Savannah Harbor. The cost of excavating its remains, salvage artifacts and stabilize whatever archaeologists leave on the bottom of the Savannah River could run as high as $13.4 million.

The wreck lies in 35 feet of water downstream from Savannah. Sonar readings have shown the ironclad is collapsing and might be slowly sliding into the ship channel.

"Basically, we want to have a plan for the CSS Georgia," said Col. Roger Gerber, the corps' Savannah district commander. The study began this week. "We want to know what we need to do to preserve her and how best to get it done."

Using sonar and other devices, archaeologists from the corps, the National Park Service and the U.S. Navy's Naval Historical Center hope in the next few months to piece together the first accurate picture of the wreckage.

"They won't be excavating, but there will be a lot of mapping and probing," corps archaeologist Judy Wood says. "If the harbor-deepening project goes forward, we could be working on the Georgia for the next five or six years."

The Georgia effort follows the raising of the Confederate submarine H.L. Hunley two years ago from Charleston harbor. The turret of the USS Monitor was recovered off Cape Hatteras this summer.

The Georgia was one of three Confederate ironclads built in Savannah after the battle between the Monitor and the Merrimack, off Hampton Roads, Va., in 1862.

The ship originally was a U.S. revenue cutter that had been seized at the start of the war. Local carpenters and railroad workers rebuilt it and armored it with 500 tons of iron.

On its maiden voyage, it ran aground three miles downstream and remained there for the rest of the war.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: confederate; cssgeorgia; dixie; dixielist; godsgravesglyphs; heritage; history; honor
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1 posted on 11/01/2002 6:42:37 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: *dixie_list; archy; BurkeCalhounDabney; bluecollarman; RebelDawg; viligantcitizen; ...
Confederate Navy Bump!
2 posted on 11/01/2002 6:43:05 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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A 'you forgot me' bump
3 posted on 11/01/2002 6:45:10 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
NOPE! we KNEW you'd show up to add your "salient comments"

ROTFL.

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4 posted on 11/01/2002 9:38:18 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
Well you have to admit that this does not exactly represent a shining moment in confederate naval history now does it?
5 posted on 11/01/2002 9:43:46 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
NOPE it didn't. but then again, ALL the ironclads built in the first couple of years of the WBTS were EXPERIMENTS & SOME actually did work. the HUNLEY being one sucess.

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6 posted on 11/01/2002 9:49:03 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
That's the price you pay for neglecting technology and industry in favor of agriculture.
7 posted on 11/01/2002 9:52:48 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
may i gently remind you that the VIRGINIA (built/designed by those same amatuers that built the Georgia) fought the Monitor to a standstill. and the Virginia was raised/re-built/designed/equipped FIRST.

until the Virginia was re-built, NOBODY had ever built/re-built an armoured ship.

too bad we didn't have more nautical expertise/money/factories, as by the time the lads learned to build the better ironclads, the war was lost.

our small, flegling CSN had nothing to hang their heads about. the old boys did WELL!

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8 posted on 11/01/2002 10:01:46 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
until the Virginia was re-built, NOBODY had ever built/re-built an armoured ship.

I'm no naval expert, but can't "Old Ironsides" built in 1797, be considered and "armoured" vessel?

9 posted on 11/01/2002 10:07:20 AM PST by Agamemnon
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To: stand watie
until the Virginia was re-built, NOBODY had ever built/re-built an armoured ship.

Check your timeline there, sw. Wait, I know that you hate it when I say that. Sorry.

The first armored warship was actually the river gunboats built by Simon Eads from a design by Samuel M. Pook. Four ironclads, the USS Essex, USS Cincinnati, USS Carondelet, and USS St. Louis, were involved in the capture of Fort Donaldson a couple of months before the Monitor and the Merrimack fought.

10 posted on 11/01/2002 10:11:11 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Agamemnon
The U.S.S. Constitution was a wooden-hulled ship. She earned the legendary nickname "Old Ironsides" because enemy round shot tended to bounce off her stout-timbered hull.

Raymond Burr, on the other hand.....

;-)

11 posted on 11/01/2002 10:16:17 AM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: stainlessbanner
USS Ranger (in the center), my brother's ship!

I tend to doubt they'll ever name a carrier after Bubba!


12 posted on 11/01/2002 10:19:59 AM PST by rockfish59
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To: Agamemnon
NOPE! "old ironsides" was NOT armoured. she was simply CALLED THAT!

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13 posted on 11/01/2002 10:36:09 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Agamemnon
Wrong! "Old Ironsides" the US Constitution was not armored. The name came from a battle with a British ship when the British cannon balls bounced off the side of the ship when they hit. That happining was the result of the Live Oak ribs of the vessel. Georgia Live Oak, I might add. The oak ribs of the vessel was so stout that the cannon balls just bounced. The term has nothing to do with iron or steel armour.
14 posted on 11/01/2002 10:37:45 AM PST by Flint
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To: Non-Sequitur
REALLY????

the book A PICTORAL HISTORY OF NAVAL WARFARE says the Virginia was FIRST.

as you can tell, i'm not an expert on ships.

free dixie,sw

15 posted on 11/01/2002 10:38:07 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Non-Sequitur
I don't have my research material here, but I believe that you and Stand Watie may be arguing apples and oranges.

If my memory serves, I think he's right in saying that the VIRGINIA was the first vessel on which armoured construction was initiated.

You are correct in noting that the Eads ironclads were the first in battle, but I believe that their construction began well after construction on the VIRGINIA commenced. Again, if my memory serves, their construction was done very quickly (along the lines of the speed of construction of the MONITOR) and they were afloat and in battle before the VIRGINIA. Again, though, I believe that their actual construction occurred after VIRGINIA's.

16 posted on 11/01/2002 10:42:47 AM PST by BlueLancer
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To: rockfish59
I tend to doubt they'll ever name a carrier after Bubba!

A carrier? No. But there is one class of ship deserving of the Sink Emperor's moniker ...


17 posted on 11/01/2002 10:46:00 AM PST by strela
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To: Non-Sequitur
are river gunboats considered ships??? i have no idea.

perhaps that's the cause of the confusion???

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18 posted on 11/01/2002 10:47:30 AM PST by stand watie
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To: stand watie
Speaking as an old Navy man they're all ships. Except submarines. Those are boats.
19 posted on 11/01/2002 10:50:49 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: BlueLancer
Bump
20 posted on 11/01/2002 10:52:14 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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