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Earthquake in Wyoming
MetroSource newsire | 10/22/02 | NA

Posted on 10/21/2002 11:02:28 PM PDT by prisoner6

MetroSource news reports a quake in Wyomning. Early estimates put center near Jackson and 4.4. NO word of damage or injuries.

43n, 110w shallow depth. prisoner6


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: earthquake; wyoming
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prisoner6

1 posted on 10/21/2002 11:02:28 PM PDT by prisoner6
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To: prisoner6
I pray you all are OK up there!!!!!
2 posted on 10/21/2002 11:04:41 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: prisoner6
Magnitude 4.4 - body magnitude (Mb)
Time Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 4:11:16 (UTC) - Coordinated Universal Time
Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 1:11:16 AM (ADT) - Atlantic
Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 12:11:16 AM (EDT) - Eastern

Here's a link to the Quake sheet from Drudge...

USGS

prisoner6

3 posted on 10/21/2002 11:08:16 PM PDT by prisoner6
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I don't mean to be a fearmonger, especially for those who live there, but that part of the country always worries me.

The Yellowstone area is so unstable, I just don't think I could live there.

I love to visit---it's one of the most beautiful spots on earth---but I don't think I would necessarily trust the ground under my feet too well on a day to day basis.
4 posted on 10/21/2002 11:09:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Nothing to be worried about. Just your average supervolcano brewing under there
5 posted on 10/21/2002 11:13:16 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: EternalVigilance
Nothing to be worried about. Just your average supervolcano brewing under there Link works now
6 posted on 10/21/2002 11:13:56 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: EternalVigilance
The area that worries me is north-eastern Arkansas. When that New Madrid fault goes, and it's overdue, I don't want to be within three states of there.

I live in California. When we have 7.5 quakes, the damage seems to be mostly local to the epicenter. But when the New Madrid last broke loose, church bells in Boston rang as a result.

Evidently the plate movement involved when the New Madrid fault breaks loose, is massive.

7 posted on 10/21/2002 11:14:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Yeah, that's exactly what I mean...LOL (nervous laughter)...
8 posted on 10/21/2002 11:14:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: DoughtyOne
That's true. The last time it went there were only a few tens of thousands of people living in the affected area...there are millions now.
9 posted on 10/21/2002 11:16:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: spycatcher
Thanks for the link.

It occurs to me that there are a number of natural disasters that seem to be overdue. In reality the occurance of one of them, could set off a chain reaction of sorts.

I've seen recent reports on some of these. They were quite interesting.

1. Super-Tsunami
2. New Madrid Fault
3. San Andreas Fault
4. The Yellowstone Super-Volcano.

The physical pressures that any of these would create, could quite easily trigger one or more of the others.

10 posted on 10/21/2002 11:23:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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There's been some solid research by someone with the USGS that reveals the New Madrid quakes weren't quite as large as first thought; got no media pub at all because it wasn't scary and exciting.

They were VERY powerful earthquakes, and would be extremely destructive if they occured today, but they are no longer considered the largest lower 48 quakes known; Tejon Pass in the 1800s in California, and the 1906 San Francisco quakes were more powerful.

Also, the reccurence time on New Madrid quakes of the size of the ones in the early 19th century seems to be very long; 400-1000 years.

The powerful earthquake threat in California, Oregon/Washington, and Utah is still FAR greater than that around New Madrid.
11 posted on 10/21/2002 11:25:26 PM PDT by John H K
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To: EternalVigilance
That is true. And I am under the impression that building codes in the region have not enforced earthquake standards on a par with California. However, I believe someone refuted that a while back. Just now, I don't remember clearly what he had to say on the subject. I believe he stated that things weren't quite as bleak on that subject as I had believed.
12 posted on 10/21/2002 11:26:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Seismology and Geology seem to create more pseudoscientific garbage than any other science besides medicine.

Please find me a peer-reviewed scientific paper stating the San Andreas can set off New Madrid, or Yellowstone, or that (a laughable concept) a tsunami could set off any of the above?
13 posted on 10/21/2002 11:28:02 PM PDT by John H K
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To: DoughtyOne; John H K
Volcanic bulge on South Sister (Oregon) still growing
14 posted on 10/21/2002 11:32:36 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: John H K
Unless the interval period was updated as a part of that study, the intervals are around 200-220 years with the New Madrid fault.

You may be technicly correct with your comments regarding specific strengths with these quakes, however, letters circa the period when the New Madrid fault last broke, do show significant shaking as far away as Boston, hence the bell ringing. With this in mind, I believe it is reasonable to consider wide-spread damage should the New Madrid break loose.

Because of the increased populace, the relative earthquake standards employed for new buildings, I'd still fear more from a New Madrid quake. But if your new references to 800-1000 years frequencies are correct, that would put things in a new perspective.

15 posted on 10/21/2002 11:50:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: EternalVigilance
Looks like there were a couple of them.
 
This from the seismograph near my home in Utah.
 
 
Yellowstone has a lot of quakes but mostly minor.
 
Here is where you can go to monitor them.
 
http://www.seis.utah.edu/helicorder/
 
and here is the seismograph from mammoth hot springs:
 
 
 

16 posted on 10/22/2002 12:04:57 AM PDT by Lokibob
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To: John H K
To: DoughtyOne

Seismology and Geology seem to create more pseudoscientific garbage than any other science besides medicine.

Please find me a peer-reviewed scientific paper stating the San Andreas can set off New Madrid, or Yellowstone, or that (a laughable concept) a tsunami could set
off any of the above?

13 posted on 10/21/02 11:28 PM Pacific by John H K
 

In all fairness, don't dump on the seismological/geological community for my musings.  To my knowledge they don't support these conclusions at all.  I'm not even convinced of them myself.

Elevated activity along the Ring of Fire, puts the geological community on notice that an elevated number of events may occur throughout the chain.  Tectonic plate movements can be considered to be related.  If the San Andreas goes postal, the regions around it may be effected.  Perhaps the buldge in Oregon could break loose.  Perhaps it may break loose first and influence the San Andreas.

Could these events influence submerged pressures on the Yellowstone area?  I don't think it's totally out of the question.  Is it a definate?  Certainly not.

As for a super-tsunami affecting the New Madrid fault, I don't think that is out of the question.  I recently saw an explanation of the super-tsunami.  One of the prime candidates to spark such an event is an island off the coast of Africa.  There is a fisure cutting through the entire island.  The section that seems to be moving, is poised to drop off into the Atlantic. Conditions are such that half the island could slip into the ocean in a single slide.  If this occurs, there is a real possibility of a super-tsunami hitting the east coast of the United States.  The resulting wave could be over 1000 feet high.  It would strike all the way from the tip of Florida to the northern reaches of Maine.

The tectonic plates plates that influence the New Madrid fault, include the whole eastern seaboard which is moving slowly westward in the New Madrid direction.  If the New Madrid area had gained enough pressure to be close to new slippage, could the weight of a massive wall of water hitting the eastern seaboard set it off?  Perhaps not.  Can that be said catergoricly?  I don't think so.

It is reasonable to consider these relationships?  I think so.  Should people be holding their breath and freaking out over any of it?  I don't think so.

17 posted on 10/22/2002 12:16:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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As I recall from my college days (I'm a geophysicist), the New Madrid quake knocked chimneys over in Boston. The West Coast quakes get hemmed in by the nearby "hard-rock" mountains. The New Madrid quake affects a larger territory because of the "softer" sedimentary rocks.

Lets hope when it DOES happen again (1 to 1000 years from now)its in the summer. Most of the natural gas and oil to the east coast runs through pipelines from the western states. It might get pretty cold in New York City with no fuel. (Reminds me of the college bumper sticker: "Ban Mining, let the ba$7*rd$ freeze in the dark.")
18 posted on 10/22/2002 12:27:08 AM PDT by geopyg
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To: prisoner6
Just testing nukes, move along .....
19 posted on 10/22/2002 12:41:34 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: EternalVigilance
My sister lives in Lovell WY. It sure beats any large city, stable or not.
20 posted on 10/22/2002 3:55:50 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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