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Turin Shroud may be genuine after all
UPI via The Washington Times ^ | 10/9/2002 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 10/10/2002 2:14:50 AM PDT by SteveH

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:57:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

GURAT, France, Sept. 24 (UPI) -- The Turin Shroud bearing the features of a crucified man may well be the cloth that enveloped the body of Christ, a renowned textile historian told United Press International Tuesday.

Disputing inconclusive carbon-dating tests suggesting the shroud hailed from medieval times, Swiss specialist Mechthild Flury-Lemberg said it could be almost 2,000 years old.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; davidrohl; godsgravesglyphs; rohl; shroud; turin
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did not see this posted elsewhere and seems to contain details that are not in other reports
1 posted on 10/10/2002 2:14:50 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH
I really wish that I knew more about this. My current thinking is that it is a type of painting where a clay statue is made and then covered with paint. The cloth is layed over the statue and then made to conform to the statue with felt hammers. This accounts for the image being only on the surface and the almost photographic nature of the image.

I really wish it were the actual shroud.
2 posted on 10/10/2002 2:36:43 AM PDT by M. T. Cicero II
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To: SteveH
Flury-Lemberg questioned the relevance of findings by other researchers who discovered pollen and dust traceable to the Middle Ages on the cloth.

"Of course it had such particles on it," she said, "after all, the Shroud was exhibited a great deal in those days."

A great deal was made of the pollen and dust traceable to the middle ages as "proof" the shroud was a hoax. Flury-Lemberg's comment was one that should have been made when this "proof" was announced origionally.

But some people will do anything to destroy Christianity.

3 posted on 10/10/2002 2:45:08 AM PDT by Budge
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To: SteveH
Check out the info here:

http://www.theshroudofturin.com/
5 posted on 10/10/2002 3:17:53 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: Swordmaker
Pong
6 posted on 10/10/2002 3:20:24 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: skull stomper
Amen!
7 posted on 10/10/2002 3:28:58 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: ovrtaxt
I think that Barrie Schwartz, who took the photos on that site, also has a shroud site with a lot of scientific information. At least, he used to. If it's still up, it's a great resource.
8 posted on 10/10/2002 3:31:25 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: skull stomper
Well said.
9 posted on 10/10/2002 3:36:12 AM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: SteveH
The Turin Shroud bearing the features of a crucified man may well be the cloth that enveloped the body of Christ, a renowned textile historian told United Press International Tuesday.

Was he there?

10 posted on 10/10/2002 3:47:17 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Budge
So if the Shroud of Turin is found to be a Middle-Ages hoax--which it almost certainly is--then Christianity is destroyed?

Gee, whatever happened to faith?

11 posted on 10/10/2002 3:48:40 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: skull stomper
Bingo.
12 posted on 10/10/2002 3:49:05 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Gee, whatever happened to faith?

See post #4.

If the Shroud is real, it's a wonderful thing. If the Shroud isn't real, it's a piece of cloth.

But either way, it doesn't change the story.

13 posted on 10/10/2002 3:58:18 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: skull stomper
Thought for the day...
The shroud may prove that Jesus died. We Christians prove that He is alive!
14 posted on 10/10/2002 4:02:23 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: M. T. Cicero II
It is not paint.

Shroud of Turin -- Presentation Update

15 posted on 10/10/2002 4:08:14 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Illbay
Now we have a "textile expert" telling us it's Christ on a blanket. Who's next, a sewing expert? The only person who can tell us if it is Christ is Christ. The bible warns of all this there He is there He is crap.
16 posted on 10/10/2002 4:13:25 AM PDT by ALS
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To: kittymyrib; RightOnline
SOT Ping!
17 posted on 10/10/2002 4:14:52 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: SteveH
Thanks for the update on this story. I was quite interested back in 1988 when some people from Los Alamos were involved in the carbon dating of the shroud.
18 posted on 10/10/2002 4:18:03 AM PDT by TiaS
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To: Corin Stormhands
I agree. My understanding of Christianity is that while there are plenty of relics and items floating around Christendom it is not a faith of such items. The true measure of it is what lies in the hearts of each believer. Corinthians 1 ch. 13 sums it up.
19 posted on 10/10/2002 4:18:24 AM PDT by xp38
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To: M. T. Cicero II; Judith Anne
The premier source of at-your-fingertips information on the Shroud is Barrie Schwortz's site www.shroud.com. It contains probably just about every important theory ever devised concerning the Shroud (from every perspective), and tons of papers on the subject, a great many of which I've read. That's the place to go!

Schwortz was a member of the original STURP team investigating the Shroud.

20 posted on 10/10/2002 4:29:53 AM PDT by john in missouri
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