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Professor Rigid on Evolution (must "believe" to get med school rec)
The Lubbock Avalanche Journal ^ | 10/6/02 | Sebastian Kitchen

Posted on 10/06/2002 8:16:21 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana

Professor rigid on evolution </MCC HEAD>

By SEBASTIAN KITCHEN </MCC BYLINE1>

AVALANCHE-JOURNAL </MCC BYLINE2>

On the Net

• Criteria for letters of recommendation: http://www2.tltc.ttu.edu/dini/Personal/ letters.htm

• Michael Dini's Web page:

http://www2.tltc.ttu. edu/dini/

Micah Spradling was OK with learning about evolution in college, but his family drew the line when his belief in the theory became a prerequisite for continuing his education.

Tim Spradling said his son left Texas Tech this semester and enrolled in Lubbock Christian University after en countering the policy of one associate professor in biological sciences.

Professor Michael Dini's Web site states that a student must "truthfully and forthrightly" believe in human evolution to receive a letter of recommendation from him.

"How can someone who does not accept the most important theory in biology expect to properly practice in a field that is so heavily based on biology?" Dini's site reads.

Dini says on the site that it is easy to imagine how physicians who ignore or neglect the "evolutionary origin of humans can make bad clinical decisions."

He declined to speak with The Avalanche-Journal. His response to an e-mail from The A-J said: "This semester, I have 500 students to contend with, and my schedule in no way permits me to participate in such a debate."

A Tech spokeswoman said Chancellor David Smith and other Tech officials also did not want to comment on the story.

At least two Lubbock doctors and a medical ethicist said they have a problem with the criterion, and the ethicist said Dini "could be a real ingrate."

Tim Spradling, who owns The Brace Place, said his son wanted to follow in his footsteps and needed a letter from a biology professor to apply for a program at Southwestern University's medical school.

Spradling is not the only medical professional in Lub bock shocked by Dini's policy. Doctors Patrick Edwards and Gaylon Seay said they learned evolution in college but were never forced to believe it.

"I learned what they taught," Edwards said. "I had to. I wanted to make good grades, but it didn't change my basic beliefs."

Seay said his primary problem is Dini "trying to force someone to pledge allegiance to his way of thinking."

Seay, a Tech graduate who has practiced medicine since 1977, said a large amount of literature exists against the theory.

"He is asking people to compromise their religious be liefs," Seay said. "It is a shame for a professor to use that as a criteria."

Dini's site also states: "So much physical evidence supports" evolution that it can be referred to as fact even if all the details are not known.

"One can deny this evidence only at the risk of calling into question one's understanding of science and of the method of science," Dini states on the Web site.

Edwards said Dini admits in the statement that the details are not all known.

Dini is in a position of authority and "can injure someone's career," and the criteria is the "most prejudice thing I have ever read," Seay said.

"It is appalling," he said.

Both doctors said their beliefs in creationism have never negatively affected their practices, and Seay said he is a more compassionate doctor because of his beliefs.

"I do not believe evolution has anything to do with the ability to make clinical decisions — pro or con," Seay said.

Academic freedom should be extended to students, Edwards said.

"A student may learn about a subject, but that does not mean that everything must be accepted as fact, just because the professor or an incomplete body of evidence says so," Edwards said.

"Skepticism is also a very basic part of scientific study," he said.

The letter of recommendation should not be contingent on Dini's beliefs, Edwards said.

"That would be like Texas Tech telling him he had to be a Christian to teach biology," Edwards said.

Harold Vanderpool, professor in history and philosophy of medicine at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston, said he has a problem with Dini's policy.

"I think this professor could be a real ingrate," Vanderpool said. "I have a problem with a colleague who has enjoyed all the academic freedoms we have, which are extensive, and yet denies that to our students."

Vanderpool, who has served on, advised or chaired committees for the National Institute of Health, the Food and Drug Administration and the Department of Health and Human Services, said the situation would be like a government professor requiring a student to be "sufficiently patriotic" to receive a letter.

"It seems to me that this professor is walking a pretty thin line between the protection of his right to do what he wants to do, his own academic freedom, and a level of discrimination toward a student," he said.

"It is reaching into an area of discrimination. That could be a legal problem. If not, it is a moral problem," Vanderpool said.

Instead of a recommendation resting on character and academic performance, "you've got this ideological litmus test you are using," he said. "To me, that is problematic, if not outright wrong."

William F. May, a medical ethicist who was appointed to President Bush's Council on Bioethics, said he cannot remember establishing a criterion on the question of belief with a student on exams or with letters of recommendation.

"I taught at five institutions and have always felt you should grade papers and offer judgments on the quality of arguments rather than a position on which they arrived."

Professors "enjoy the protection of academic freedom" and Dini "seems to be profoundly ungrateful" for the freedom, Vanderpool said.

He said a teacher cannot be forced to write a letter of recommendation for a student, which he believes is good because the letters are personal and have "to do with the professor's assessment of students' work habits, character, grades, persistence and so on."

A policy such as Dini's needs to be in the written materials and should be stated in front of the class so the student is not surprised by the policy and can drop the class, Vanderpool said.

Dini's site states that an individual who denies the evidence commits malpractice in the method of science because "good scientists would never throw out data that do not conform to their expectations or beliefs."

People throw out information be cause "it seems to contradict his/her cherished beliefs," Dini's site reads. A physician who ignores data cannot remain a physician for long, it states.

Dini's site lists him as an exceptional faculty member at Texas Tech in 1995 and says he was named "Teacher of the Year" in 1998-99 by the Honors College at Texas Tech.

Edwards said he does not see any evidence on Dini's vita that he attended medical school or treated patients.

"Dr. Dini is a nonmedical person trying to impose his ideas on medicine," Edwards said. "There is little in common between teaching biology classes and treating sick people. ... How dare someone who has never treated a sick person purport to impose his feelings about evolution on someone who aspires to treat such people?"

On his Web site, Dini questions how someone who does not believe in the theory of evolution can ask to be recommended into a scientific profession by a professional scientist.

May, who taught at multiple prestigious universities, including Yale, during his 50 years in academia, said he did not want to judge Dini and qualified his statements because he did not know all of the specifics.

He said the doctors may be viewing Dini's policy as a roadblock, but the professor may be warning them in advance of his policy so students are not dismayed later.

"I have never seen it done and am surprised to hear it, but he may find creationist aggressive in the class and does not want to have to cope with that," May said. "He is at least giving people the courtesy of warning them in advance."

The policy seems unusual, May said, but Dini should not be "gang-tackled and punished for his policy."

The criterion may have been viewed as a roadblock for Micah Spradling at Tech, but it opened a door for him at LCU.

Classes at LCU were full, Tim Spradling said, but school officials made room for his son after he showed them Dini's policy.

skitchen@lubbockonline.com 766-8753


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: academia; crevolist; evolution
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To: PatrickHenry
We anti-evos second the motion. Placemarker.
821 posted on 10/10/2002 4:43:52 PM PDT by scripter
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To: scripter
We anti-evos second the motion.

Evos love Bush more than creos. Much more. Hee hee.

822 posted on 10/10/2002 4:50:36 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
I wasn't the last one to stop clapping this time! (Are my hands sore!)
823 posted on 10/10/2002 4:55:36 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
There is life for an evo beyond the FR...where?
824 posted on 10/10/2002 4:56:07 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
I actually meant a creo for that post---I'm searching!
825 posted on 10/10/2002 4:58:02 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
Hee hee.

Ahem


826 posted on 10/10/2002 4:58:10 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry; balrog666

827 posted on 10/10/2002 5:00:14 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry
Defeat the socialistic dems!

Vote out the rats!

VOTE OUT THE RATS PLACEMARKER!


828 posted on 10/10/2002 5:02:39 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: PatrickHenry
You can have him.
829 posted on 10/10/2002 5:10:17 PM PDT by inquest
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To: All

God Bless America placemarker
830 posted on 10/10/2002 5:28:31 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: lasereye
The curious scientist (and pre-medical student) may have objections to the evolutionary concept that need not involve a theistic perspective. The process of mutation and environmental selection is the engine that drives evolutionary theory. Yet, nearly all mutations are lethal, and nearly every molecular machine involved in the regulation of the genome is dedicated to preventing errors. Thus, even very minimally deleterious mutations, if current calculations are accurate, estimate that an an average individual should carry about 100 lethal equivalents. Since selection acts on different mutations independently, this implies too high a mutation load for a given species. The question remains, then: Why hasn't all life perished? This paradox cannot be resolved by invoking beneficial mutations or environmental fluctuations. It seems to suggest that the dominant feature of life on this planet is one of constancy, not evolutionary specization. Is the incredulous student unfit for a medical education?
831 posted on 10/10/2002 5:30:21 PM PDT by diode
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To: AndrewC

Stayin' Alive!

832 posted on 10/10/2002 5:30:25 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: Right Wing Professor
Even in the era of the genomics, there are some important inconsistencies.

Molecular melodies in high and low C.

Hartl DL.

Department of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138, USA. dhartl@oeb.harvard.edu

For 50 years now, one of the enigmas of molecular evolution has been the C-value paradox, which refers to the often massive, counterintuitive and seemingly arbitrary differences in genome size observed among eukaryotic organisms. For example, the genome of the fruitfly Drosophila melanogaster is 180 megabases (Mb), whereas that of the European brown grasshopper Podisma pedestris is 18,000 Mb. The difference in genome size of a factor of 100 is difficult to explain in view of the apparently similar levels of evolutionary, developmental and behavioural complexity of these organisms.

Do DL Hart's credentials impress you?

833 posted on 10/10/2002 5:44:27 PM PDT by diode
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To: balrog666
Not only does you picture not come out, but every time I roll onto the page with your "Stayin' Alive" post I get a prompt for my "Network username and password," not to mention my "Domain."

It doesn't like "VadeRetro," an obscenity I'd better not share, and "Earth" as input values, either.
834 posted on 10/10/2002 6:15:51 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
you picture

Spell checker missed again!

835 posted on 10/10/2002 6:17:11 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Right Wing Professor
One thing academic departments won't do these days is hire unfundable faculty. And if the candidate meantioned his creationism to a search committee, why wouldn't he be foolhardy enough to mention it to a granting agency?

Interesting. Let me see if I understand correctly: You're saying that faculty are discriminated against not because of their lack of scientific competence, but because they're not politically acceptable to the powers-that-be?

836 posted on 10/10/2002 6:19:49 PM PDT by inquest
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To: VadeRetro
Same thing happened to me. I just right-clicked on "Properties" and pasted the URL that came up. It's actually a pretty funny pic.
837 posted on 10/10/2002 6:21:48 PM PDT by inquest
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To: inquest
That did it. And when I came back, it retrieved the picture from cache so I didn't get the form.

But it comes back on every "refresh" attempt. @#$%^!

Cute pic, though!
838 posted on 10/10/2002 6:24:45 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro

Bin Laden-Staying Alive!

Let's see if this one comes through.

839 posted on 10/10/2002 6:36:40 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: balrog666
No, and when we scroll onto the new page, I'd suggest another site for pictures. ;)
840 posted on 10/10/2002 6:38:17 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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