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Could It Be That Florida Democrats Are Too Stupid To Vote?
Toogood Reports ^ | September 18, 2002 | Mary Mostert

Posted on 09/18/2002 7:42:36 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

The Miami Herald reported Saturday, "In an increasingly eerie replay of the 2000 presidential election in Florida, former attorney general Janet Reno today demanded a statewide, manual recount of the votes in Tuesday's Democratic gubernatorial primary." By Sunday, Janet Reno was denied a recount, since McBride won by at least 8000 votes.

This seems to be a replay of the 2000-voting debacle in Florida. There, if you remember, a "butterfly ballot," created by a Democrat, was the fault somehow of Governor Jeb Bush.

Now, we hear, from the Reno camp that the newest voting debacle in Florida "could be used as a weapon against Bush." They will claim that it was all Governor Jeb Bush´s fault because he signed the election reform law, which authorized the spending of $32 million dollars for new Touch-Screen Voting Machines, because a sizeable number of Democrat voters in Broward and Miami-Dade counties found it too complex to punch a hole next to the name of the candidate you want in office, like the Republicans do without difficulty.

Another difficulty in the latest Miami-Dade and Broward County debacle, according to the Miami Herald, "The directions were written only in English, and the elections office didn't check poll workers' ability to read in English." Of course, Democrats control those county election boards, and managed, somehow, to hire illiterate poll officials who could not understand the words "on" and "off" so they could turn on the new machines, in spite of 4 hours of prior training and the fact they had all been tested prior to election day. ( !!! )

The new Ivotronic machines were used in eleven counties in Florida, but the Herald reported: "only Miami-Dade and Broward had serious problems. The election supervisors in the four counties with systems identical to those in Miami-Dade and Broward told The Herald that their elections went smoothly. In fact, the company said, the machines "accurately captured 100 percent of the votes which were cast and "No votes were lost or not counted." In Lee County, which includes Fort Myers, Supervisor of Elections Philinda Young, said: "Overall, 95 percent has been nothing but praise about how easy it was to use.'' Of Florida´s 67 counties, 55 of them voted for McBride in the Democratic Primary and 12 voted for Reno.

This does not deter Janet Reno from trying somehow, to make her defeat the fault of Republican Governor Jeb Bush. In hopes of resurrecting the controversy in the 2000 election, instead of "chad build-up" we now have "smudge build-up" on the Touch Screen machines. Of course, this seems to occur only in Democratic strongholds in Miami-Dade and Broward counties. Instead of "hanging chads" we now have "inadequate calibration" to blame Reno´s defeat on.

We are also being told that, somehow, only in the Miami-Dade precincts, there are "hundreds and perhaps thousands of votes" that were not counted. Broward officials have begun a similar review. "Together," the Reno campaign believes, "the two counties may contain enough uncounted votes to close McBride's 8,100-vote lead."

Of course, the "uncounted votes" which somehow always are found in boxes, or in this case, machines, that were "sitting in a warehouse uncounted" have also been unsupervised by poll watchers.

In both Chicago and in Miami-Dade, this problem only seems to afflict Democratic Precincts in close elections. For example, Reno is now arguing that vote fraud and other irregularities helped her opponent win, and she says that just four of 81 disputed precincts turned up 1,818 uncounted votes.

However, investigative reporters James and Ken Collier, authors of Votescam which was published in 1992 while Reno was Florida´s attorney general, have a different scenario. In 1992 they uncovered preprinted voter ballots in a warehouse rented by a Miami political candidate.

Following the advice of their editor, the reporters seized the evidence and took the illegal ballots to Janet Reno who promptly had the JOURNALISTS arrested, rather than to investigate how a candidate had preprinted ballots in his possession!

The scam works as follows: somehow boxes of "uncounted" ballots end up in the warehouse. It just so happens that the warehouse also contains blank, pre-printed ballots. The boxes are "found" and counted and show, surprise, surprise, that they have enough ballots for the trailing candidate to reverse the election. In the olden days, it was called "Ballot Box stuffing."

In the year 2000, when this was going on, some of the Democrat "undercounted" precincts ended up with 98% of the registered voters having "voted" – compared with 67-73% in the highest voting counties in Florida. Later, it turned out, that many of those votes came from "voters" who were either dead or in prison. However, they are to this day part of the count in the 2000 Presidential election.

The Colliers observed, "When we saw in this past primary that McBride was leading Reno by 100,000 votes statewide, with 60 percent of precincts reporting, and Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach not reporting even hours after the close of balloting, and after almost every other county had reported, we knew exactly what was happening.

"It is a time-honored tradition, perhaps refined by the Daley machine of Chicago, to hold vote counts until the last minute. This way, the (political) machine could figure out just how many votes it needed to come up with to close the gap and ‘win.´

"We knew this was taking place in these three counties on Election Night 2000, when the three Florida counties took so long to report – and then conveniently closed the gap between Bush and Gore.

At this point it appears that, either Miami-Dade and Broward County Democrats are just too stupid to vote, regardless of how brainless you make the system or, as the Colliers claim, decades of ballot box stuffing cannot keep up with voter rejection of Democrat candidates.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: broward; election; ivotronic; jamescollier; jebbush; kencollier; mcbride; miamidade; palmbeach; reform; reno; smudgebuildup; touchscreen; votingmachines
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1 posted on 09/18/2002 7:42:36 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
You can't be "too stupid" to vote Democrat.
2 posted on 09/18/2002 7:44:55 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Stand Watch Listen
There is certainly a pattern.....
3 posted on 09/18/2002 7:46:47 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Even though the Democrats set everything up for the voting process and did not tell a lot of people how to turn the machines on, they are going to blame this fiasco on the Governor. Go Figure!
5 posted on 09/18/2002 7:52:17 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: DocBenway
OK, let's hear your favorite "How many Florida Democrats does it take to change a lightbulb?" jokes!

A. They don't know. They're still counting....

6 posted on 09/18/2002 7:58:06 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: Stand Watch Listen
"It is a time-honored tradition, perhaps refined by the Daley machine of Chicago, to hold vote counts until the last minute. This way, the (political) machine could figure out just how many votes it needed to come up with to close the gap and ‘win.´ "

So the problem is not that south Floridians are too stupid to vote properly, the problem is that the dems are having a little trouble figuring out how to defraud the new system??
7 posted on 09/18/2002 7:58:10 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Following the advice of their editor, the reporters seized the evidence and took the illegal ballots to Janet Reno who promptly had the JOURNALISTS arrested, rather than to investigate how a candidate had preprinted ballots in his possession!

I didn't think it possible, I thought I had heard it all, but she has managed to outrage me again. It makes me so angry that she will never have to pay for her countless miscarriages of justice.
8 posted on 09/18/2002 8:01:18 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Before the next election, we should send piles of calculators down to the three Florida counties that have trouble counting....
9 posted on 09/18/2002 8:01:27 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: Stand Watch Listen
The Colliers observed, "When we saw in this past primary that McBride was leading Reno by 100,000 votes statewide, with 60 percent of precincts reporting, and Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach not reporting even hours after the close of balloting, and after almost every other county had reported, we knew exactly what was happening.

The Colliers are dead ('90 & '98), how did they observe anything? Am I misreading something?

10 posted on 09/18/2002 8:04:00 AM PDT by NEPA
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To: DocBenway
Hmmmmmmm....6805 ???
2167...making the light bulb in prison,
1199...rounding up illegal light bulb changers,
1101...residing in the cemetary,
527...to carry the cases of duplicate light bulbs,
471...to cry out the light bulb didn't switch on!!
371...to smuge up the light bulb,
371...to clean up the light bulb,
239...loading the light bulb in the secured warehouse,
179...guarding the light bulb in the secured warehouse,
123...to receive DNC light bulb 'changing points',
56...to spin, on TV, the abhorrent light bulb fiasco,
1 to discover the unaccounted light bulb,

Hmmmmmm ...am I correct???

11 posted on 09/18/2002 8:06:25 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Piquaboy
There is no solution to the problem because no matter how foolproof and easy voting is made, it will be screwed up untintentionally or intentionally; however the democrats think it might favor them. I have voted with several kinds of ballots and never had a problem. They are all self-explanatory. If anyone is too stupid to figure them out, they are too stupid to know anything else, either.
12 posted on 09/18/2002 8:06:37 AM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Yes
13 posted on 09/18/2002 8:09:15 AM PDT by adam stevens
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To: DocBenway
"How many Florida Democrats does it take to change a lightbulb?"

Answer: "Hmmm. hang on, how many do we need to win?"

14 posted on 09/18/2002 8:09:40 AM PDT by Henchster
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Have you seen the new Florida Quarter?

Actually, it's a nickel--you just count it five times.
15 posted on 09/18/2002 8:10:28 AM PDT by mondonico
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To: aberaussie
the problem is that the dems are having a little trouble figuring out how to defraud the new system??

I'm pretty impressed with the new machines. It's going to be tough tampering with them. What's needed in Miami is some Republican poll watchers to monitor the process.

16 posted on 09/18/2002 8:14:44 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Very interesting article. Thanks for posting it.
17 posted on 09/18/2002 8:17:45 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Stand Watch Listen
TSTV = Too Stupid To Vote.
18 posted on 09/18/2002 8:18:02 AM PDT by spodefly
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To: aberaussie
The way to defraud the new system is to delay ballot returns until after the "automatic recount" period has past.

What I don't understand is how you "recount" electronic ballots. There is nothing to read, just a count. Computers don't make math errors of this nature.

Old processes required "recounting" because the process by which a ballot was read could be flawed.

Only write in ballots, mailed in ballots (early/overseas voting), and some foreign language ballots will not be in the computer ballot box.

Even if the system has a record of every electronic ballot (all of the voter's selections), the number would be able to be tallied in under 5 minutes.

The Rats feel stymied and must resort to loud braying to persuade radicals that "they were done wrong".

Janet Reno cannot come forward to claim that the Democrat political machine did not believe that she had a chance against Jeb Bush and so they sabotaged her primary election. Blame the Republicans again, the Rats always do.

19 posted on 09/18/2002 8:20:59 AM PDT by weegee
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To: aberaussie
Excellent statement, but it needs to be stated louder.

So the problem is not that south Floridians are too stupid to vote properly, the problem is that the dems are having a little trouble figuring out how to defraud the new system??

20 posted on 09/18/2002 8:24:08 AM PDT by callisto
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