FLORIDA HOSP BOOTS ‘HOAX' TRIO

New York Post ^ | 9/15/2002 | MALCOLM BALFOUR

[jimbo123]

MIAMI - The three medical students who caused a terror scare by allegedly joking about Sept. 11, have been kicked out of the hospital where they were heading to continue their medical studies.

Ayman Gheith, Omar Chaudhary and Muhammed Kambiz Butt - all U.S. citizens and students at Ross University Medical School - had planned to work and study at Larkin Hospital in Miami.

[jimbo123]

Muhammed Butt? What a silly name.

[PROTESTBYPROXY]

Somethings are not funny!

[mewzilla]

I'd like to see if all the people defending these three are as upset by the treatment, and joblessness, of Stephen Hatfill.

[jimbo123]

I think it's funny they got booted by the hospital. It's not funny they're going to show up in another state. A

[PROTESTBYPROXY]

All day long, we've been receiving threatening, hate e-mails and phone calls of a racial nature!
THIS IS NOT RACIAL, IT IS SURVIVAL!

[Chad Fairbanks]

Hmmm... Did Hatfill make anthrax jokes, which led the FBI to consider him a suspect? I rather doubt it...

Apples and Oranges, man... Apples and Oranges...

[thucydides]

The school was right to throw them out, but it was for the wrong reason. They should have been dismissed on grounds that their behaviour in the Georgia restaurant was completely inconsistent with the character required to become a physician entrusted with the lives and health of others.

[alisasny]

Frankly I believe these men did make a joke in public and if that is the case I really dont need them to be my doctor. I am sure others feel similar. It is one thing if they made the jokes in private amongst themselves.

Would you let any of them treat you? I agree with the school on this matter and any medical school or internship in which these folks have taken the hippocratic oath.

2 excerpts:

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

[mewzilla]

No, but there was more evidence against these three idiots than there appears to be against Hatfill. But I don't see anyone crying a river for him. I just find the dichotomy interesting.

[mhking]

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

[Chad Fairbanks]

Oh, I understand what you meant... I have a problem with the FBI's actions in the Hatfill "case", mainly because of the way they have used the media to 'prosecute' him when they apparently don't have the evidence to do it in a court of law...

That being said, based on all I've seen and read, these 'clowns' have no business becoming physicians...

[Lokibob]

Eunice Stone should be congradulated for reporting these slime.

ME swarthy men should know to maintain a low profile, certainly not make jokes about buildings. Not a racist statement, a statement of fact. I'll bet they wouldn't have made these jokes in an airport.

[mewzilla]

Did we ever find out what the deal with their tags was?

[FITZ]

How old are these former medical students? They sound extremely juvenile if they were joking. Maybe it's pre-teen kind of humor to play that kind of prank. Even envelopes of white powder are at a higher level of childish prank.

[esopman]

The dichotomy is tragic. America is in deep weeds...BLOAT BUMP.

[mhking]

"Paging Dr. Howard...Dr. Fine...Dr. Howard..."

[Chad Fairbanks]

I thought I read somewhere that the Illinois DMV just' screwed up'... but to be honest, I'm not sure what the deal was...

[VOA]

How old are these former medical students? They sound extremely juvenile if they
were joking. Maybe it's pre-teen kind of humor to play that kind of prank.

Maybe they watched too many episodes of "MASH" and thought that American doctors
are always pulling pranks when not in the operating room...

[Reborn]

Would you let any of them treat you?

That was my first thought! No way would these fools treat me as a patient. Personally, I'd rather have Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, and Dr. Howard, lol.

[ladyjane]

How old are these former medical students?

They're not former. They were just sent to a different hospital. Maybe they'll be working with Willie Kennedy Smith.

[mewzilla]

Gee, been a lot of screw ups lately. Screwed up tag numbers, jumpin' ugly on a shipment of glow-in-the-dark Italian tiles. It's enough to give someone a complex.

[twyn1]

bureaucratic "snafu" --- some sort of mess up in the Illinois Dept. of Vehicles computer system -- tags were shown to belong to a different car -- heard a report that the original owner of these tags had his plates stolen recently (but they were not the same plates that were on the Florida vehicle)

[SamAdams76]

"The safety of the three students, the personnel and patients would be placed in jeopardy if they were to work here, so we have sent them to another hospital out of state."

Gee thanks. Why do I get the feeling that they will take I-95 all the way to Boston?

[sabe@q.com]

"No, but there was more evidence against these three idiots than there appears to be against Hatfill."

You don't know that... unless you work for the FBI and have worked on both cases... and if you did, you wouldn't be making statements such as those in public forums...

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

In interviews yesterday, they denied making jokes about Sept. 11, but investigators countered that the men did make some off-color remarks as they tried to inflame Eunice Stone's suspicions.

Methinks they would have been better to pay their bill and shake the dust from their feet.

dan

[Chad Fairbanks]

Luckily, I've already had a complex long before this ;0)

[mewzilla]

I did use the word appears in the sentence...

[sabe@q.com]

it may appear to you; it doesn't appear to me...

[mewzilla]

Tried and convicted Hatfill already, have you?

[sabe@q.com]

"Tried and convicted Hatfill already, have you?"

Why would you assume that by my comments?

[mewzilla]

That's just the way it appeared to me.

[mass55th]

"The school was right to throw them out, but it was for the wrong reason. They should have been dismissed on grounds that their behaviour in the Georgia restaurant was completely inconsistent with the character required to become a physician entrusted with the lives and health of others."

While I agree with you totally, the reality is that the hospital took the right approach. Had they used the above reason, they would probably have been challenged in court successfully. As it is, they will probably be sued anyway, but the defense of protecting the hospital, staff and patients is much easier to fight in court.

[Amerigomag]

It appears that these young men were fed up with what they believed was racial profiling in a PC sense. They got angry at the perceived prejudice of the waitress and decided to feed her "biased" fears.

These young men now face two choices: Live with consequences of their alleged but unproven conduct or admit they acted in misguided haste and face those consequences. Neither choice is pleasant. The former affects there careers and rancors our society. The latter may place them in our legal system.

But whatever these men decide to do they would be ill advised to continue to defend their actions in a assertive manner. This nation and it's citizens will not tolerate another outrage similar to the that perpetrated by the administartion of San Diego State University.

Should these young men pursue a path of civil recourse against Stone I trust they come to understand the true meaning of patriotic intolerance.

[sabe@q.com]

I was speaking about BOTH cases and FBI insider investigative information in BOTH cases and how it compares...

I would say I'm not ready to make any pronoucements as to guilt or innocence in either case...

[BrooklynGOP]

The three students told investigators they were angered by what they thought was a "suspicious look," from a woman at a Georgia restaurant while they ate breakfast Thursday morning.

Suspicious look? They over reacted cause they profiled her cause she is not a muslim.

[Eagle9]

"The safety of the three students, the personnel and patients would be placed in jeopardy if they were to work here, so we have sent them to another hospital out of state."

They'll continue their internship elsewhere, unless the state of Georgia can/will prosecute. This may well be most telling sentence in the whole article. No consequences.

sighhhhhhhh

[nutmeg]

"The safety of the three students, the personnel and patients would be placed in jeopardy if they were to work here, so we have sent them to another hospital out of state."

Gee thanks. Why do I get the feeling that they will take I-95 all the way to Boston?

Let's stay on top of this one, FReepers. Which state are these three "jokers" headed for???

[nutmeg]

FYI

[mass55th]

Instead of posting a new article to deal with this, I'd like to ask some of your folks out there:

Has anyone thought of the connection between the terror cell arrested in Lackawana and the fact that Tim McVeigh is from that area as well?

The bio on McVeigh says he was raised in Pendleton, New York, but I'm not sure if he lived anywhere else in the Buffalo area. There is a distance of approximately 197 miles between Pendleton and Lackawana. Any of your Freepers have any other info or comments on this?

[Amerigomag]

No consequences

They have already suffered consequences. Their names are publically associated with a distinct lack of judgement, their personal luggage was destroyed and their career choices have been narrowed.

Nutmeg's suggestion in reply 38 is obviously warranted but we as a society must have a certain amount of tolerance for the exhuberance and lack of wisdom of our youth.

Let's throughly investigate their backgrounds and watch them vgilantely but the PC crowd in this country shares some of the responsibilties for these events which emboldened these individuals to act in such an outlandish manner.

[WestCoastGal]

I agree, we need to investigate this and put the best FR detectives on this. Where were they sent?? These idiots do not have the brains or the morals to be Dr's in this country. Maybe they should go to Pakistan, Yemen or wherever they originally came from and play Dr. there. I'm sure those countries need "Dr's"??. We certainly do not need them here.

[jlogajan]

"Paging Dr. Howard...Dr. Fine...Dr. Howard..."

[ladyjane]

Which state are these three "jokers" headed for???

Since they are still medical students at Ross they're probably going to another hospital that has an established affiliation with Ross. They were only supposed to be in Florida for a couple of months. They probably were just moved to their next rotation.

[mercy]

I KNOW Eunice can pass a lie detector test.

Can the jokers?

I can just SEE the fuzzy faced one sitting down for a fed administered lie detector test. HAH. Never happen.

[Amerigomag]

These three "men" are a perfect example of how followers of Islam think

That description also fits the PC crowd in this country don't you think?

[eddie willers]

the hospital took the right approach. Had they used the above reason, they would probably have been challenged in court successfully

I'd have taken their money....worked their butts off....and flunked 'em.
But that's just me.

[DUMBGRUNT]

From the Ross web site:
. In addition, Ross University has received multiple state approvals, from Florida, California, New York, and New Jersey, further attesting to the quality of the program.

[Iron Eagle]

It seems to me that we Freepers should be looking for information on where these three were sent, so we can keep the pressure on not to let them work.

[Ganymede]

Can someone please explain to me why this incident prompted CNN to do a feature on the discrimination that Arabs/Muslims have encountered since 9/11 - the suggestion being that this was just another incident of unwarranted racial profiling/discrimination? Guess I should just stick to Fox News.