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1 posted on 09/14/2002 9:21:09 PM PDT by Stultis
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Lesson one: Don't mess with women in Georgia.
2 posted on 09/14/2002 9:25:19 PM PDT by js1138
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Here it comes, just as I and many others here predicted.....lawsuit.
Poor Eunice.....we need to support her.
3 posted on 09/14/2002 9:26:36 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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"...He said that just this weekend, a mosque under construction in Northern Virginia was attacked by vandals..."

Someone must take exception to the erection of a damnable Satanic grotto in their community...

Imagine that.

4 posted on 09/14/2002 9:27:54 PM PDT by DWSUWF
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So basically they will state that a waitress made this whole thing up because she was a bigot and islamaphobe. I saw the Arab mouthpiece that CNN had on air. She must have been selected to be compelling to the sympathy folk as she had TV presence. I just wish the FBI could actually find a link or two on the CREEPS. If they would tell us mere citizens about it would, of course, be another story.
5 posted on 09/14/2002 9:28:07 PM PDT by Winston Smith
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Oh, so now both Eunice and the police are lying. These victimized muslim boys are the only ones capable of telling the truth. Oh brother.
7 posted on 09/14/2002 9:33:23 PM PDT by alnick
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My family went through this a long time ago. It has nothing to do with race since my family is caucasian. My family experienced it during World War I. They still spoke German at home and had elements of German culture and had a German surname.

My great-grandfather's response to this was not to cry about it. His response was to enforce the exclusive speaking of English and put his son into a uniform of the United States to fight the enemy. The war made a line in the sand and you made your choices. You could not be half a thing and half another.

When World War II came around my family had no problems and there was no issue about what my family was.
8 posted on 09/14/2002 9:33:33 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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This is terrible. How many will want to report possible terror threats now, with all the media attention and then getting smeared by many and maybe even sued. You try to do your part and be responsible and it destroys your life!
10 posted on 09/14/2002 9:39:54 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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"We are very concerned that mere suspicions, possibly based on prejudice and stereotyping, could so damage the lives and livelihood of hard-working young people whose only wish is to defend their reputations

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Georgia woman say, even before the hoaxers were stopped, that she fully realized the perps may have been doing a "put on" in reaction to another patron staring at them? Didn't she discuss this with others at the restaurant, debating whether the authorities should be informed? I got the impression that she was genuinely concerned about making a potentially misleading report, but decided that, not being certain that it was joke, it was best to put the matter in the hands of the police.

Sounds to me like a good citizen answering the call to vigilence from our leaders and not willing to take a chance with the lives of others. The result is that she is now being called a liar. If she is not, a defamation suit may be in order.

11 posted on 09/14/2002 9:40:52 PM PDT by Stultis
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OK now that the CAIR terrorists are involved, I'm 1000% certain that these scumbag Mohammedans said what that lady said they did.
12 posted on 09/14/2002 9:41:45 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Stultis
Crosslinking related thread:

Man in terror scare says woman is lying

14 posted on 09/14/2002 9:45:36 PM PDT by Stultis
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Ping
17 posted on 09/14/2002 9:48:33 PM PDT by Stultis
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I've seen a few people defend these three. And I've seen a lot of people, myself included, defend Eunice.

Right now, I am unsure what to think. There is something that is troubling me. She said her son was there. I thought she said he was 18, but I'm not sure.

WHY hasn't the son come forward? Why hasn't the son been interviewed? One would think that the son would WANT to come forward to vindicate his mother?

Could Eunice and her son, have lawyers, too? And have been told to not say anything more? We haven't even heard from her today, have we?

20 posted on 09/14/2002 9:50:13 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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Bob Novak on CrossFire tonight, supported the 3 youths and accused Eunice of making up the story-it was his Outrage of the Week. He also ridiculed the increased terror alert.
23 posted on 09/14/2002 9:51:32 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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And CAIR wonders why it gets bad press...

Not a word they maybe their fellow Islamist did something wrong... Noooo... Everyone else just made it up...

Deny, deny, deny, to your face while sticking the knife in your back.
27 posted on 09/14/2002 9:56:05 PM PDT by DB
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Lying to protect oneself is an essential tenet of Islam called "Taqiyah". Originally, it was employed by the Shia Persian Muslims, and because of Iran's influence, taqiyah has spread to all of the Muslim extremists and terrorists.

Because Muslims do lie, and they have a religious doctrine telling them to lie, we non-Muslims must regard everything they say as a lie.

It is time to realize that Islam is not so much a religion as it is an enemy ideology and all of its practitioners are "enemy combatants" whose presence among us erodes and destablizes our culture and our nation. The whole lot of these Muslims should be deported from the United States, and NO Muslims should be allowed to come into the US except for diplomatic staff.

35 posted on 09/14/2002 10:01:27 PM PDT by Siobhan
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If they said they were joking, I might believe them, but according to them, the GA woman is lying, the cops are lying about running a toll, the cops are lying about initially refusing a search, and the dogs made a mistake that there had never been any explosives in the car. Imagine that, a conspiracy between a dog, the FLA police, and a GA woman!!
39 posted on 09/14/2002 10:07:41 PM PDT by The Person
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To: Stultis; Dave S; aristeides; Fred Mertz
http://www.rossmed.edu/Medical_School/Home/home.shtml

This takes you to the med school in Domenica where the three and the ones sister are atttending.
48 posted on 09/14/2002 10:16:59 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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oh brother.....where art thou?LOL
78 posted on 09/14/2002 10:51:12 PM PDT by tutstar
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Call me Miss Cleo ping.
88 posted on 09/14/2002 11:04:31 PM PDT by dread78645
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Bump

Below is an excerpt from Steven Emerson's book, "AMERICAN JIHAD" regarding CAIR.


Appendix C
THE TERRORISTS' SUPPORT NETWORKS
The Sea in Which the Fish Swim

THE COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS (CAIR)

CAIR is the most prominent of the Muslim organizations concerned with "civil rights." In its charter, CAIR stated it would "promote interest and understanding among the general public with regards to Islam and Muslims in North America and conduct educational services in the fields of religion, culture, education, society and history concerning Islamic issues both in the United States and abroad." The organization generally purports to represent the Muslim viewpoint in America. Founded in 1994, CAIR is an outgrowth of the Islamic Association of Palestine. In 1994, then-IAP president Omar Ahmad approached Nihad Awad, IAP's public relations director, and “suggested that they leave the IAP and concentrate on combating anti-Muslim discrimination nationwide.” When the organization was incorporated, the three individuals involved were Awad, Ahmad, and Rafiq Jaber who served as Ahmad's successor to the position of president of the IAP CAIR takes the public position that it condemns terror. Shortly after the events of September 11, 2001, the organization took out a full-page advertisement in The Washington Post stating: “We at the Council on American Islamic Relations, along with the entire American Muslim Community, are deeply saddened by the massive loss of life resulting from the tragic events of September 11th. American Muslims unequivocally condemn these vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism.... We join all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators of these crimes.”

On its Web site, the statement appears as an adjunct to a section labeled "Passenger Profiling," in which American Muslims are invited to submit complaints “if you or someone you know has been a victim.” Another subsection titled "Help for Victims" asks, "What you can do for the victims of the WTC and Pentagon attacks" and allows contributions through both the Red Cross and the Holy Land Foundation.

In fact CAIR has often served as an ideological support group for militants. On May 24,1998, for example, CAIR cosponsored an incendiary rally at Brooklyn College that featured speakers spouting anti-Jewish rhetoric. One speaker was Wagdy Ghuneim, a radical cleric from Egypt. He told listeners, "Allah says he who equips a warrior of jihad is like the one makes jihad himself." He led the audience in a song with the lyrics: “No to the Jews, descendants of the apes.” On October 28, 1998, CAIR's Southern California branch issued a press release to protest the existence of billboards in the Los Angeles area that depicted the visage of Osama bin Laden with the headline "the sworn enemy." The billboards had been sponsored by the Los Angeles-based KCOP Television, Inc., and were intended "to take recognizable characters and situations that affect people's lives because they are in the news" (as CAIR put it). The CAIR statement claimed that the billboard was “an insult to the hundreds of thousands of Muslims who live in Southern California.”35 CAIR has even refused to condemn the Taliban. A conference in Columbus, Ohio, entitled "Leadership Ambassadors, Making a Difference," featured a seminar led by CAIR's Director of Communications, Ibrahim Hooper. There, Hooper explained how he preferred to contextualize the regime: [O]ften I'm dealing with very sensitive controversial issues, and I don't want to be quoted about the Taliban, you know, but I want to put the Taliban into context for a reporter. So I'll say well, you know, CAIR doesn't comment on international issues where there is not an American component so we just don't have any comment. But, can we go off the record, and then I'll go off the record in trying to explain what is going on so that they don't just go away with a stereotypical, one dimensional portrayal ....

CAIR's executive director, Nihad Awad, explained his views regarding the Palestinian situation in a speech delivered in 1994 at Barry University in Florida: "After I researched the situation inside and outside Palestine, I am in support of the Hamas movement. . . ." In 2000 Awad appeared at a rally in front of the White House in Washington, D.C., and rejected any peaceful settlement between the Israelis and the Palestinians: "they [the Jews] have been saying 'Next year in Jerusalem’—we say 'Next year to all Palestine' ” He also stated that Hollywood had distorted its treatment of groups engaged in violence in the Middle East by referring to them as terrorists: “Hollywood is not our friend. Hollywood has distorted the facts. Hollywood has shown freedom fighters as terrorists. Hollywood has done the work that Zionists cannot done [sic].”

CAIR officials have defended the action of suicide bombers. On the one hand, Awad told CNN's "Crossfire" that “Suicide is an act of disbelief, because we Muslims believe that God is only in charge of life and death. And to take one's life or other people's life is an act of disbelief and it goes in sharp contradiction with Islamic teachings.” On the other hand, at a conference of the Islamic Association for Palestine held a week later, Omar Ahmad, chairman of CAIR's board of directors, told a youth session: “Someone in Islam is allowed to fight.... Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam—that is not suicide. They kill themselves for Islam.”

Much of CAIR’s time is spent trying to persuade the press not to "overreact" to acts of Muslim terror and trying to prove that Muslims themselves are victims of discrimination and prejudice. A year after the bombings of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 that killed 224 people, Jeff Jacoby of The Boston Globe wrote: "On that occasion, prominent Islamic voices in the United States did speak out. But their chief message was not one of horrified sympathy for the victims and their families or of shame that anyone calling himself a Muslim could perpetrate such an atrocity. No—what [these] Muslim leaders were eager to communicate was a warning to the media not to speculate about a possible Islamic connection to the slaughter.

Exercise Restraint in Reporting on Embassy Bombings,’ ran the headline. At the time, despite the ferocity of those bombings, America's major Islamic groups made no move to distance themselves from bin Laden—or even to label him a terrorist.” “A release issued by the Council on American-Islamic Rela tions was typical: 'American Muslims Ask Journalists to CAIR has several ties to the Hamas-connected organizations and individuals discussed in Chapter 5. At its founding, CAIR received funding of $5,000 from the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development. According to annual reports filed in the state of Illinois, Mohammad Nimer, the director of CAIR’s Research Center, was on the Board of Directors of the United Association for Studies and Research (UASR). After September 11, 2001, and up until the U.S. government froze the assets of the Holy Land Foundation in December, CAIR’s Web site included a feature, "What you can do for the victims of the WTC and Pentagon attacks" with a link to the Web site of HLF ("Donate through the Holy Land Foundation").

When Federal Judge Kevin Duffy ordered the extradition of Hamas leader Mousa abu Marzook in 1996, CAIR coordinated a press conference on May 10 to protest the decision. CAIR also signed a letter, printed in a June 1996 "Newsletter of the Marzuk [sic] Legal Fund," arguing that the extradition order was “anti-Islamic” and “anti-American.” Steve Pomerantz, former chief of the Counterterrorism Section of the FBI and former assistant director of the FBI, says: “CAIR has defended individuals involved in terrorist violence, including Hamas leader Musa abu Marzook.... The modus operandi has been to falsely tar as 'anti-Muslim' the U.S. government, counter-terrorist officials, writers, journalists and others who have investigated or exposed the threat of Middle East-based terrorism.... Unfortunately, CAIR is but one of the new generation of new groups in the United States that hide under a veneer of 'civil rights' or 'academic' status but in fact are tethered to a platform that supports terrorism.”

Seif Ashmawy, former publisher of Voice of Peace, wrote: “It is a known fact that both the AMC and CAIR have defended, apologized for and rationalized the actions of extremist groups and leaders such as convicted World Trade Center conspirator Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman, Egyptian extremists, Hassan al-Turabi, the Sudanese National Islamic Front, and extremist parliamentarians from the Jordanian Islamic Action Front and others who called for the overthrow of the Egyptian government. . . . As a proud American Muslim . . . I bow to no one on my defense of Muslim civil rights, but CAIR . . . champion[s] extremists whose views do not represent Islam.”



98 posted on 09/14/2002 11:33:43 PM PDT by B-Cause
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