BlueLancer:What part?
Eaker: ALL OF IT!!!
Stay safe; stay armed.
Posted on 09/12/2002 7:20:50 PM PDT by ArcLight
In all the solemn statements by self-important politicians and newspaper columnists about a coming war against Iraq, and even in the troubled comments by some who are opposed to the war, there is something missing.
The talk is about strategy and tactics, geopolitics and personalities. It is about air war and ground war, weapons of mass destruction, arms inspections, alliances, oil, and "regime change."
What is missing is what an American war on Iraq will do to tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of ordinary human beings who are not concerned with geopolitics and military strategy, and who just want their children to live, to grow up. They are not concerned with "national security" but with personal security, with food and shelter and medical care and peace.
I am speaking of those Iraqis and those Americans who will, with absolute certainty, die in such a war, or lose arms or legs, or be blinded. Or they will be stricken with some strange and agonizing sickness that could lead to their bringing deformed children into the world (as happened to families in Vietnam, Iraq, and also the United States).
True, there has been some discussion of American casualties resulting from a land invasion of Iraq. But, as always when the strategists discuss this, the question is not about the wounded and dead as human beings, but about what number of American casualties would result in public withdrawal of support for the war, and what effect this would have on the upcoming elections for Congress and the Presidency.
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BlueLancer:What part?
Eaker: ALL OF IT!!!
Stay safe; stay armed.
While teaching this Spring at a University in St. Petersburg, Russia I took the time to go to Piskaryovsoye Cemetery, a mass graveyard outside the city of St. Petersburg, Russia. I purposely went there as a visceral, visual reminder of what happens when people, leaders and nations of the world try to appease/make peace with or otherwise ignore madmen bent on world conquest and domination. This site contains over 186 mass graves. I know because I took the time to count each of them and to solemnly ponder their contents. THERE ARE OVER 490,000 PEOPLE BURIED THERE! People just like you and I, people who once lived, breathed, love and dreamed of bright futures for themselves and their children. Over 900, 000 people died in the city of St. Petersburg alone (200, 000 just in Jan-Feb 1942) and MOST of them were women and children.
All of this happened because the leaders of the world, including Stalin, sought to appease a little madman by the name of Adolph Hitler.
A week later I went to London and visited the Imperial War Museum. There, encased in glass I saw the actual Munich pact letter signed by Hitler and Chamberlain in which Hitler "promised" in writing to end his aggression... promises always look good in writing.
Nevil Chamberlain waved the letter before the English press and the world and said: "...My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is peace for our time. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep." -- Neville Chamberlain, September 30, 1938.
Europe believed his hollow promisesand went back to sleep. They tried to "contain" and "appease" Hitler, the exact same advice people who ignore reality are giving us today regarding Saddam... the result; HE ATTACKED THEM ANYWAY AND 80 MILLION PEOPLE DIED IN THE PROCESS... people like you and me, people like your children, your husbands, your wives, your grandparents.
Like Hitler, Saddam has given his word and made promises for the sole purpose of keeping us from stopping his WMD programs and his ultimate aims for aggression. The World needs to be reminded that to date HE HAS KEPT NONE OF THEM. History teaches us this lesson; if we do not deal with and stop Saddam now, the cost will be far, far greater to accomplish this in the future.
So "Why act now?" Because this is the reality of our current situation; Muslim fundamentalists all over the world have declared jihad on America. They want us (civilians, men, women and children) DEAD and are actively plotting to kill, enslave and destroy us. All of this is taking place at the same time Saddam continues to produce weapons grade Anthrax, VX gas, and hastily works on developing nukes and these other "goodies" to give to toady Muslim terrorists to use against America. A report out this week details the "worst case scenario" 3 MILLION DEAD due to the release of 250 pounds of weapons grade Anthrax in either LA or San Francisco
America and it's leaders and people will either learn from history or repeat it. History provides us and our Allies with all the reasons and justification we need to preemptively go to war with Iraq and to rid the world of Saddam. The only other option the is to wait until he or one of his Muslim lackeys hits us and thousands or millions die.
The appeasers like Mr. Zinn advise us to "wait, for “proof” do nothing, to sit around, contain, appease and take Saddam at his word... until we are attacked, the problem is then it will be too late.
Our response must be that of G. BUSH sr.: 'Sorry, ... NOT GONNA DO IT... WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT!"
History warns us, if we do not deal with this threat now, the next attack Anthrax, Small pox, dirty bomb, etc... (and it is coming if we don't stop them, it is just a matter of time) will make Sept. 11th look like a picnic. Mr Zinn gets all choked up about "inocents" getting killed in Iraq. HE fails to mention that 3,000 American innocents were murdered on September 11, 01.
By the way, I am not some 'arm chair general" who never served but is gung-ho to send others off to war. I am a former Vietnam vet... USN 68 - 71 who served in the theater of operations. I know the cost of war Mr. Zinn, but the cost of inaction is in this case too high to contemplate. If you don't believe me take a trip to Piskaryovsoye Cemetery outside of the city of St. Petersburg, Russia.
Zinn, you are a bastard. You have no father.
If you ever did, he disowned you, and walked away when you claimed him. He gave you a country, and you claimed a world. Zinn, you bastard, you look the gift horse in the mouth, you count your chickens before they hatch. You think 1+1 equals three.
I'm so glad your self-loathing makes you angry. I hope you go to the polls this November and suck two centuries of Democracy in America into your lungs and choke.
You are pathetic and lame. Did you know that your great Leader, Stalin, built limousines in the 1940s? Did you know that your idol, Castro, smokes the same cigars that sell on Wall Street for $500 bucks a virgin's-thigh roll?
You shit, you Zinn. I hope the bullet that was meant for Henry Clay Frick finds its way back to pierce your Wobblie-assed Manifesto, knocking it off your bourgeois mantle, and falling into pieces next to your bourgeois diplomas and awards.
Or didn't you cash the royalties check?
Zinn, suck my next book. You're the main show in footnote no. 347, where I stick pins into your little theory that Americans of 1911 weren't better off than any time before. Guess what, they've done nothing but get better, and give them liberty, give them property, and give them the fear of God, and they will always and ever do better.
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Sorry, Jim. I guess I haven't been feeling so good, lately. I'm better now, really... I think.
If Saddam has the nukes available to hand out to terrorists or would even do so if he had them then you have made the perfect case as why the USA must act NOW!
Demokos, a Trojan soldier, asks the aged Hecuba to tell him "what war looks like." She responds: "Like the bottom of a baboon. When the baboon is up in a tree, with its hind end facing us, there is the face of war exactly: scarlet, scaly, glazed, framed in a clotted, filthy wig."Zinn does not love my children.If enough Americans could see that, perhaps the war on Iraq would not take place.
And, if his historical impotence has not infected, too, his sack, and he has children, he doesn't love them, either.
May Robbespierre call his name at 4:30 this morning. May he dream of Stalin's bloody skies, of Mao's stricken fields, of Ho Chi Min's children dressed in bombs. May he awaken to the sounds of Saddam's thugs beating down his door.
My contempt for Zinn is boundless. His heart is a stone; his soul is barren.
"War is not like sunshine, lollipops and rainbows. War is like a total bummer."
The same could be said with the victims of 9/11 - where the war started.
"What our enemies have started, WE WILL FINISH", President Bush, 9/11/02.
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