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Stocks sink to levels last seen in '80s
The Japan Times Online ^ | Wednesday, September 4, 2002 | No byline

Posted on 09/03/2002 7:46:48 PM PDT by altair

Stocks sink to levels last seen in '80s

Tokyo stocks tumbled Tuesday on broad-sector selling by speculative investors, sending the benchmark indexes on the Tokyo Stock Exchange to levels last seen in the early 1980s.

The 225-issue Nikkei average shed 304.59 points, or 3.20 percent, to close at 9,217.04, its lowest level since Sept. 19, 1983, when it finished at 9,141.25.

The broader Topix index of all first-section issues fell 26.12 points, or 2.81 percent, to 904.24, its lowest close since Dec. 25, 1984, when it ended at 898.99.

Brokers attributed the fall to selling by speculative investors running short-term funds who, they said, were frustrated by the long spell of narrow-range trading.

"The Nikkei has stayed in a boxed range between 9,500 and 10,000 since mid-July, and people started to wonder when it will break out of that range, either upward or downward," said Toshihiko Matsuno, an investment adviser at Sakura Friend Securities Co.

"Speculative moves were also seen Monday last week, when the Nikkei rose above 10,000 for the first time since July 30. But the buying failed to spur follow-throughs, so this time they tried to test the downside."

Brokers said the nuclear-plant scandal involving Tokyo Electric Power Co. has made investors shun power companies in general and to lean toward gas firms.

Economic ministers said they are monitoring prices on the bourse closely but have no specific policies in the pipeline to provide them with a boost.

Finance Minister Masajuro Shiokawa told a news conference that it would be "difficult" to implement policies aimed specifically at boosting Tokyo stock prices, as the decline is part of a global trend.

"I think stocks are being affected by those of the United States," he said.

"The drop in stock prices is taking place globally. It is difficult for us to aggressively take steps aimed at Japanese stock prices in such an environment."

Shiokawa added, however, that tax and other systems related to stock trading should be revised to promote activity on Japan's exchanges.

Japanese firms should place more emphasis on efforts to raise funds directly from the market rather than relying on loans from financial institutions, Shiokawa said.

Meanwhile, Financial Services Minister Hakuo Yanagisawa said Japanese banks will face problems due to their falling share prices. In this regard, he urged investors to eschew a bearish path, claiming that Japan's economic fundamentals are favorable.

"I have been told by many people that the fundamentals are good and regional economic activity has been becoming active," Yanagisawa told a news conference. "I hope investors will make appropriate investment decisions by looking at the real state of the Japanese economy."

Last Friday, the government said Japan's economy grew a real 0.5 percent in the April-June quarter from the previous quarter, marking a first period of growth in five quarters.

The data initially appeared to validate the government's own economic assessment -- that signs of a nascent recovery are visible in some areas but that the economy overall continues to be in a difficult situation.

The Japan Times: Sept. 4, 2002
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Japan
KEYWORDS: japan; nikkei; recession
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More bad news from this side of the Pacific. As of 9 this morning, the Nikkei is down to 9083.77 and the Topix index is down to 888.47.
1 posted on 09/03/2002 7:46:48 PM PDT by altair
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To: altair
Well, Good. We need things to level out and be reborn after the liberal mess of the 90's. 'Money' Was everywhere, so if it was real, where did it all go? It was never there to begin with and this is the result of that mess (and many others, no one thing of course).
2 posted on 09/03/2002 7:49:29 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: altair
The worst economy in the last 50 years, don't ya know!
3 posted on 09/03/2002 8:11:30 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator
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To: VRW Conspirator
repeat after me (with glazed over eyes, if you really want to complete the effect): "buy and hold, buy and hold."

to appear erudite, instead of merely brainwashed, entone: "historically, the stock market appreciates 10% per year over time." (can anyone tell me, btw, where that last canard came from?)

4 posted on 09/03/2002 8:20:42 PM PDT by johnboy
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To: altair
If this keeps up another 2 years, as some on this forum have said, then what do you think the chances are that President Bush will win a second term?
5 posted on 09/03/2002 8:23:30 PM PDT by teletech
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To: teletech
Yes, he will. Wartime Presidents rarely lose re-election and we'll be bombing or shooting at someone during that election, regardless of the economy.
6 posted on 09/03/2002 8:28:03 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: johnboy
"historically, the stock market appreciates 10% per year over time."

Would the same be true for the Nikkei? I don't think there's that much history to it and the Japanese economy was in total shambles after the war. I would imagine that anyone fortunate enough to be able to buy stock in the 50's and 60's would be quite rich now.

7 posted on 09/03/2002 8:30:40 PM PDT by altair
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To: teletech
I don't think his chances are as good as many people on this forum think. It depends upon whom the Democrats nominate, but I think the election could be a close one. I am most afraid of a Hillary! campaign. She's as dirty as they come and smart enough to steal the election fair and square, unlike dumber-than-dirt Algore who was too stupid to be able to steal the last one.

When Japan finally crashes and burns it will have world-wide impact and if it happens in the next two years not even a shooting war may be enough to save President Bush's second term. Where are you going to get the electronics for modern weapons if Asia is in depression?

8 posted on 09/03/2002 8:42:05 PM PDT by altair
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To: altair
Deflation, with interest rates nearly at zero. Japan had a twin bubble, stocks and real estate. As long as they refuse to clean up their banking system, and write off bad loans and close bankrupt firms, they're going to continue to stagnate.
9 posted on 09/03/2002 8:44:20 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
we'll be bombing or shooting at someone during that election, regardless of the economy.

So you really believe this will be war without end? I thought that was tinfoil hat material.

10 posted on 09/03/2002 8:47:29 PM PDT by altair
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To: Pelham
Deflation

I've heard that described as a problem, but everything is (still) so expensive here. You could cut the price of everything in half and it would still be expensive.

11 posted on 09/03/2002 8:50:56 PM PDT by altair
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No, I think it will be a selective war. Whenver the poll numbers drop, we'll bomb someone who's harboring a terrorist camp, or terrorist goat, or terrorist camel. It's the ultimate politician war. You never have to name an enemy nation, just a target.
12 posted on 09/03/2002 8:56:05 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: altair
No, I think it will be a selective war. Whenver the poll numbers drop, we'll bomb someone who's harboring a terrorist camp, or terrorist goat, or terrorist camel. It's the ultimate politician war. You never have to name an enemy nation, just a target.
13 posted on 09/03/2002 8:57:27 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Pelham
So when our real estate bubble bursts and the regulators refuse to shut down Rubin's firm, you'll say we're Japan redux?
14 posted on 09/03/2002 8:58:38 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Wrong President.
15 posted on 09/03/2002 9:02:32 PM PDT by John W
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To: John W
Have to disagree. This type of war is made for President's on either side of the political spectrum: Democommie or Republicrat... W is only better than Klintoon because he doesn't do obscene things in the Oval Office.
16 posted on 09/03/2002 9:04:16 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: altair
Japan finally crashes and burns it will have world-wide impact

In China especially don't you think? Can't imagine it will affect Japan's thirst for imported oil, though, so Arabia should be unaffected.

17 posted on 09/03/2002 9:08:36 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
One other reason Bush is better,that some folks miss for all the propaganda, is that he is competent and has competent people working for him.If not for the House O' Cards Clinton Roaring Nineties-now collapsed-what would be one legacy of Billy Blythe?Incompetence.
18 posted on 09/03/2002 9:08:52 PM PDT by John W
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To: johnboy
"historically, the stock market appreciates 10% per year over time." (can anyone tell me, btw, where that last canard came from?)

Not from any of the millions that have just lost their shorts, among other things..

19 posted on 09/03/2002 9:12:01 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: John W
Believe me, I may not like a lot of W's policies, but I thank God every day that the alternative is not in office. Could you imagine asking the U.N. to help protect the U.S. from terrorists? And how much corruption in the financial markets would go unchecked!?!?! Terrifying.
20 posted on 09/03/2002 9:15:46 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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