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Police use pepper spray on protesters at demonstration against Bush in Portland, Oregon
Associated Press ^ | 8-23-02 | WILLIAM McCALL

Posted on 08/23/2002 4:08:58 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: gdani
http://www.library.kent.edu/exhibits/4may95/exhibit/chronology/

"For clarification, things were thrown but not bricks."

According the the above site, it was rocks..but your right, that is MUCH better than bricks.

"Perhaps they did. However, there is no evidence."

Good point, it may have been dancing sugar plumb faries. From the above link:

"Shortly after 8:00 p.m., over one thousand persons surrounded the barracks housing the Army Reserve Officer Training Corps on campus and a few managed to set the building afire. Firemen left the scene after hoses were punctured and cut open, unable to extinguish the blaze. By midnight, the National Guard cleared the campus, forcing students and non-students into dormitories, where many spent the night. "

Sounds like an accident too.


61 posted on 08/24/2002 8:01:57 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Tailback
I'd sure like to see the money trail on them.

Check your 1040 and go from there. Thats where it starts.

62 posted on 08/24/2002 8:15:59 AM PDT by templar
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To: Dead Dog
I don't buy it, these guys were provoked.

Looking at the relative numbers and the actions of the protestors over the preceeding days, they were probably more terrified of the crowd than provoked by it. I seriously doubt that many of them realy wanted to be there. They way I understand it (correct me if I am wrong) is that they were being driven back by a vastly larger crowd of demonstrators acting in a violent and threatening manner. There was a bang, like a gunshot. The gaurd, probably beginning with one person and escalating rapidly, fired back in what they believed was self defense. It was just a plain crappy situation to be in.

So who fired the first shot? Or maybe threw a firecacker at the gaurd? I don't think anyone has ever figured that out. Who was responsible? No question about it. The demonstrators. Had they simply been peaceably demonstrating and not advancing on the gaurd in a hostile and threatening manner no one would have gotten killed. The campus police, or whomever gives them their orders, are also partly to blame for not nipping the gathering in the bud. Of course, if police try to head off trouble before a crowd goes out of controll, liberals, conservatives, libertarians, etc. begin crying POLICE STATE.

63 posted on 08/24/2002 8:43:58 AM PDT by templar
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I admit that I don't know the whole story here. But check out this link:

http://www.rense.com/general28/port.htm

64 posted on 08/24/2002 6:57:44 PM PDT by Revel
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