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California's Liberal Flakeout
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 21, 2002 | Review & Outlook

Posted on 08/21/2002 2:40:31 AM PDT by snopercod

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:46:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Political pros are predicting that Democrats could win control of both the House and Senate this November, for the first time since 1994. If you want to know what that could mean, look no further than California, where the legislature is partying like it's 1969.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: hippies; liberals; socialists
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Davis has turned a $12 bilion surplus two years ago into a deficit so big that nobody seems to be able to come up with a number.

Is Gray Davis Looting California Retirement Funds?

1 posted on 08/21/2002 2:40:31 AM PDT by snopercod
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2 posted on 08/21/2002 2:41:10 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Grampa Dave; SierraWasp
More good news...
3 posted on 08/21/2002 3:05:28 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: snopercod
The Dems are going to win both houses, eh? What a recipe ! let's see----just add Hillary.
4 posted on 08/21/2002 3:18:50 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: snopercod
If the unthinkable does come to pass and the Democrats regain control of the house and senate, President Bush is going to have to learn to put his veto pen to good use.

Ronald Reagan proved a conservative president could dictate a conservative legislative course even with a Democrat house and senate, if he is firm and in command of the issues
5 posted on 08/21/2002 4:14:19 AM PDT by apillar
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Wouldn't it be great if the automakers ignored the greenhouse rules and nobody in California could buy a car....
6 posted on 08/21/2002 4:28:57 AM PDT by trebb
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To: snopercod
Thanks...

I own land here that isn't easy to part with...
7 posted on 08/21/2002 5:09:07 AM PDT by DB
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To: snopercod
Fruits, nuts and flakes race to make Kalifornia the newest third world country.
8 posted on 08/21/2002 5:53:49 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: snopercod; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; tubebender; Liz; eureka!; ...
Finally someone has identified the true backers of the Rats in Kali:

The "iron triangle" of interests that dominates the legislature -- trial lawyers, environmentalists and labor unions -- is now pushing its entire wish list, in the expectation that Governor Davis will sign anything that moves before the legislature adjourns on August 30.

I would add the predator homosexuals who want entry into the public schools to the Boy Scouts to promote their lifestyle as the greatest life style ever. Their money and political clout is tremendous.

So I would call the Rat Base in Kali: The Iron Cube, made up of trial lawyers, environmentalists, labor unions, and the powerful homosexual predator lobby!

Inside that Rat Iron Cube exist all of the dark side voting groups that depend on a handout from Kali taxpayers to be able to live their dark side life style. So these 4 power groups make sure that our tax $'s are used to buy votes and to stay in office.

9 posted on 08/21/2002 5:57:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Sheila Kuehl has also sponsored a bill, just recently passed, that will make it illegal for the California legislature to pass legislation that restricts access to an abortion.

Its pure insanity.

10 posted on 08/21/2002 6:05:49 AM PDT by kidd
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The virtually unlimited immigration that the WSJ has favored for many years has helped make California politically and socially what it is today. It's a bit hypocritical of them to complain now.
11 posted on 08/21/2002 6:28:33 AM PDT by jordan8
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You got it right, Grampa. All the more reason to make sure we elect Bill Simon as Governor. We can't take over the Assembly or Senate this year (it was only 8 years ago that the Republicans won the State Assembly with 41 votes, installing the first Republican speaker in more than 20 years). But with a Republican governor, he can stop evil bills from becoming law and possibly undo some of the severe damage of the corrupt Davis Administration.
12 posted on 08/21/2002 7:03:09 AM PDT by Gophack
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I guess there’s no need to set those charges in the San Andreas Fault Californians are sinking themselves.

They better not expect us to send them any life boats.
13 posted on 08/21/2002 7:44:50 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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Wouldn't it be great if the automakers ignored the greenhouse rules and nobody in California could buy a car....

I was thinking the same thing.

14 posted on 08/21/2002 7:46:24 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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Last month he also signed a measure he once opposed that would put draconian limits on future "greenhouse gas" emissions from cars sold in California. Since Detroit can't make cars only for one state, Sacramento is in essence dictating higher auto costs for every driver in America.

Not necessarily. Detroit could simply decline to sell cars in CA until they come to their senses.

15 posted on 08/21/2002 7:55:07 AM PDT by Sloth
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Unravelling California politics is like peeling an incredibly potent onion..

The intermarriage of all the special interests and corrupt politicos across the spectrum is sad to witness. We should expect more from "educated" people.

A lot of innocents have been hurt as we have watched a once great state that led the nation in many ways decline because the elected legislators and HollyWeird sold us out.



DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists



GO SIMON

16 posted on 08/21/2002 9:24:51 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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... a perfect liberal "harmonic convergence."

One could make the case Mugabe/Zimbabwe is the African version of perfect Marxist "harmonic convergence".

If Kalifornia continues headlong in this idiocy and the more sane Californians cannot reverse it and soon, the productive and decent people better start looking for shelter elsewhere, just as in Zimbabwe! There comes a point of "too late" to save yourself when entangled in these movements.

17 posted on 08/21/2002 9:41:39 AM PDT by Gritty
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I own land here that isn't easy to part with...

I understand. We left our two beautiful acres in Los Osos in 1986. Now somebody else is enjoying the fruit from the thirty trees I planted. Apple, peach, nectarine, plum, guave, avocado...

As I recall, you live up North of the Cuesta Grade. Maybe near Hidden Valley Ranch?

18 posted on 08/21/2002 2:29:55 PM PDT by snopercod
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It's going to be interesting to watch how this "harmonic convergence" plays out.
  1. We essentially have a dictator in California, since Davis renews his "emergency powers" month by month. The RAT legislature, who could rescind them, chose not to.
  2. Both the legislature and the governor openly flout the California Constitution provisions on borrowing money (Which requires a vote of the people to borrow over $300,000).
  3. The legislature, juciciary, and the governor openly flout voter iniatives, like Prop. 187 on illegals, and Prop. 2 on using the Highway Trust Fund for highways (what a concept). Davis just signed an EO to use it for other things, regardless. Nobody cares.
  4. Davis has burdened California with $108 billion in new debt since he has been in office...that we know about. Nobody there seems to care. The number is apparently just too big to comprehend. Let me help. That's $9,000 per California household, assuming that everyone pays taxes equally (cough).

This quote comes to mind:

Power concedes nothing without a demand... It never did... and it never will... Find out just what the people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.....
— Frederick Douglass, August 4, 1857.

19 posted on 08/21/2002 2:48:22 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: snopercod
Nice comments.

I wish there were some way I could refute them! I used to love California. Now, you couldn't get me to live there for anything.

It's fast becoming a Socialist Hell-Hole and the sad thing is, the majority of people there no longer seem to care or else they approve of the change. The demographics have changed that much in just a few years. They're going from bad to worse.

20 posted on 08/21/2002 2:57:35 PM PDT by Gritty
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