[blam]

"The oldest human remains undisputedly found in North America are just under 20000 years old, 19500 +/- 300 years old. These are found in three places I know of, all on the Eastern coast, and all show that the persons involved came from Europe, probably Iberia or maybe France, and had the Solutrean culture complex, and were thus of Caucasian race if the Solutreans were-- and I have never heard that disputed.

Now you have. Those (Cactus Hill, Topper and another) are indeed old sites and are possibly in the 20k year old range and they do have Solutrean technolgy but, there are no human remains. The oldest dated skeleton ever found in the Americas is named Luzia, an African looking woman who died at age 24, 11,500 years ago in Brazil. (There has recently been a skeleton, Kennewick Man like, found off the coast of California, on an island, that is expected to surpass the 11,500 year old Luzia skeleton)

[crystalk]

Again a failure to carefully read my statement. What I said was that I had never heard it disputed THAT THE SOLUTREANS WERE CAUCASIAN. After all, they did live in Europe!

If we therefore find them in the USA, one might make the assumption they remained of the same race despite the ocean voyage, BUT I DID NOT SAY THAT.

Furthermore, I said that the oldest humans in NORTH America were at the three sites...I never mentioned South America in any way, so Luzia is of no relevance here.

Many sites in South America are MUCH older than 20,000 years, some do approach 40,000 years. As you say, those people might be African like Luzia, or who knows what. I was discussing North America.