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The Bill of Rights at Colorado State
rocky mountian rattlesnake press ^ | today | Rosco Thorndyke

Posted on 07/28/2002 5:44:58 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake

The Bill of Rights at Colorado State

By Rosco Thorndyke.

Colorado State University view on the Bill of Rights. Almost a year ago a man was asked to take the bill of rights down from his door. The Bill of Right was there for over a year and there was never a complaint about it. There was in fact several positive comments made to this custodian concerning the Bill of Rights. Both liberal and conservative students could find comfort in at least parts of the document. But last year at the beginning of the new school year this custodian was told to take it down by his superiors. It seems the students didn’t mind the Bill of Rights but the folks who run the school have issues with it. I was told that it was offensive. Funny thing was that there were sax sex poster put up by staff that talked about all sorts of sex acts in sickening detail but that was not considered offensive. Heck there were gay rights posters that showed men kissing and hugging half dressed, I personally found that offensive.

This Custodian was reprimanded be because he voiced his opinion on the matter. Since he has two kids to feed he was in no position to do anything further on the matter. If you have read the Rocky Mountain Rattlesnake you have heard about this before. So I am just bringing up to date those who have not yet heard about it. You see he was allowed to post anything that they didn’t find offensive. Thy wanted him to put up his art work, but he took his art work down anyway. You see at Colorado State University Custodians are second class people. If he had been a professor or worked behind a desk things would have been different. But the way in which custodians are treated at CSU is much like the way colored people were treated in the south 50 years ago. Except they are allowed to share the bathrooms with the upper staff, as long as they clean them.

Now why I bring this up again is to tell you even more about CSU’s on going hatred of the Bill of Rights. They put on a class to help people understand diversity in the work place. When I hear the word Diversity my hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Funny thing is Diversity is the opposite of University. This class was taught by 4 woman in there 40’s and fifties obviously they were heavy influenced by the 1960’s. Now to get one thing straight, I object to racism very much. So I do not like racism. The bible doesn’t ever mention what the color of any ones skin is. So if God doesn’t care what color some ones skin is neither do I. Judge people by their choices they make in life, but not the color of the skin or national origin. We all know if we have half a brain that affirmative action is racism in practice and anyone who supports it is a racist. But this diversity thing was beyond the topic of racism in fact it was only brought up briefly.

At this Diversity training several subjects were brought up. They we told that they had to by CSU’s law accept homosexuals in the work place. Though I do not agree with the choice they make in life, I can still work with them. But when they got to the subject of Christianity, there were not as friendly with them, as they were with homosexuals, but there is no surprise over that. Someone voiced there concern about being preached at, in the work place. The director of this said. We have freedom of speech but that speech is limited, She said that dirty jokes and sex talks was permitted but you had to go to the free speech zone preach to someone that was a the Plaza in front of the student center. CSU say they can limit free speech to one small area if they want to.

When another person ask about Freedom of religion. He was quieted and they quickly told him that the constitution says we have freedom from religion not freedom of. What a lie that was this women was telling. Here is what the First Amendment says: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”. Do you see freedom from or freedom of? No in fact the text goes beyond just freedom of.

Yes CSU here is in clear violation of the constitution. They are prohibiting the free exercise hereof. Oh yea and about Free speech, talk about abridging that. You are only allowed free speech in the Plaza. Well if your speech is something they like you are allowed. If they had a gay rights rally or an Earth fest it would be acceptable. But what if you wanted to have a prayer gathering you would have to bring it to the plaza. If you wanted to have a pro-gun rally well I bet they wouldn’t even let you do that on the Plaza. As far as CSU thinks the Bill of Rights are only for them, the upper superior class of staff members.

Interesting to note, The people who put on this diversity workshop are from an office dealing with diversity issues. There were all women and all made sure you knew that they were liberal democrats. One of them told us over and over that she was African American seems to me that would make her a racist if that is her identity. I couldn’t care less what race she is thinks she is, it is not important to me. I see her as female.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: billofrights; coloradostate; csu; diversity
Write or E-mail on my freinds behalf, He can't he needs his job. But if enough of us make enough noise,they will have to hear.

http://www.colostate.edu/

1 posted on 07/28/2002 5:44:58 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: RMrattlesnake
The America I grew up in is no more. People offended by the Pledge of Allegiance and the Bill of Rights and judges and legislators who agree. The young radicals of the 60's have now grown and are running things. It's going to get a lot worse before it ever gets better.
2 posted on 07/28/2002 6:50:37 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
It is sad but I have to agree with you
3 posted on 07/28/2002 6:53:04 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: RMrattlesnake
My neighbor from Pakistan was a full professor at a major University in Islamabad. He knew only one Christian, the building janitor.

This man worked very hard. Every now and then my neighbor would pass him some extra money.

One day he was asked by several religious activists on campus to help them "get the Christian", by which they meant to persecute the janitor in various ways.

That day my neighbor went and applied for American immigration.

Interesting that my neighbor found conditions identical to those you report at CSU sufficient grounds to abandon his land of birth, all his friends, his family and everything he had.

You should do likewise. It is acceptable to leave the evil ones to themselves, although it would be decent of you to first help that janitor get a new job.

4 posted on 07/28/2002 7:11:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Well come to Amerika, now showing at CSU.
5 posted on 07/28/2002 7:44:10 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: muawiyah
You should do likewise.

But... where to?

6 posted on 07/28/2002 7:57:54 AM PDT by Eala
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To: Eala
Where to...that indeed is the rub. Any suggestions from expat freepers?
7 posted on 07/28/2002 8:31:21 AM PDT by applemac_g4
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To: RMrattlesnake
Diversity is the opposite of University.

A pearl of Wisdom, from the mind of an astute student.

8 posted on 07/28/2002 9:21:13 AM PDT by thinktwice
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To: RMrattlesnake
bump
9 posted on 07/28/2002 9:54:38 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: RMrattlesnake
RMrattlesnake, is this a true story and not an "urban legend?"

I guess I'd believe anything of the politically correct, but a major university labeling the Bill of Rights offensive strains even my credulity.

Anyway, if it's true, perhaps the board of directors, if they have such a thing, or their alumni associations need to know. Also, if it's a state school, the state legislature may be interested (if they're not a bunch of Republicans, which'd mean they're probably too scared to speak).

10 posted on 07/28/2002 10:15:35 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
In my experience, truth IS stranger than fiction. I believe it.
11 posted on 07/28/2002 10:28:06 AM PDT by Green Knight
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To: Eala
Not to Massachusetts or Connecticut. You might try Southern Indiana.
12 posted on 07/28/2002 1:15:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I assume that Colorado State University does not operate on taxpayer money, so they can do whatever they feel like and are beyond the reach of The People and their Representatives. If this is not the case, they should be de-funded immediately.
13 posted on 07/28/2002 8:22:39 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: RMrattlesnake
Funny thing was that there were sax sex poster put up by staff that talked about all sorts of sex acts in sickening detail but that was not considered offensive. Heck there were gay rights posters that showed men kissing and hugging half dressed, I personally found that offensive.

Reminds me of New Orleans last Spring Break. There were drunk teens all over the place. Two YOUNG drunk couples were almost having sex on the sidewalk, right in front of everyone. Drunk kids vomiting everywhere. Drunk college boys falling asleep everywhere. Police horses were pooping on the sidewalk, and streets. No problem, no one cared. BUT IF you had a GLASS BOTTLE... that was a BIG NO NO!!!! Kinda like comparing offensive sex poster to Bill of Rights poster. The world is just upside down now!

14 posted on 07/28/2002 9:10:58 PM PDT by buffyt
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To: henderson field
Usually when it says "STATE" just before the University part, that means they are totally taxpayer supported.
15 posted on 07/31/2002 5:06:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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