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Political, Media Campaign Against Mosques In Holland
Islam Online ^ | June 16 2002 | Khaled Shawkat

Posted on 06/16/2002 4:17:20 PM PDT by knighthawk

THE HAGUE, June 16 (IslamOnline) - Three Dutch political parties, two of which are partners of the new right wing government, called for giving administrative authorities the right to temporarily shut down mosques, in case they were involved in spreading “hatred instigating ideas”.

The three parties’ call - Liberals, Pim Fortuyn’s Party, and the Democrats - was floated Friday, June 14, after a Dutch TV Channel aired parts of Friday’s Sermons in the mosques of major Dutch cities. Imams of these mosques expressed Muslim fury at the continuous Israeli aggressions against the Palestinians.

Spokesmen of the three Dutch parties described the Imams as “extremists, fanatics, and fundamentalists”. Spokesman of the Democrats 66 Party said, “The parliament has to give the city Mayors and Municipalities’ Heads the authority to shut down, temporarily, mosques proved to be involved [in spreading hard-line ideas], till the Imam is replaced with another less fanatic one.”

However, the Christian Democratic Party - largest among parties of the ruling coalition - and the Labor Party - opposition - rejected the three parties’ call.

Both parties MPs (Members of Parliament) considered closing mosques “unacceptable, and not a solution for the problem”. They also stressed “the necessity - for minorities - to respect the Dutch Laws inside their places of worship”.

Meanwhile, Muslim activists pointed that the call of the three parties comes within a campaign against the Muslim minority, launched after the attacks of Sept. 11. The campaign gained more momentum due to the support, by Dutch Muslims, to the Palestinian resistance. That support set the Israeli lobby in motion to counter it with the Dutch authorities.

The Dutch Interior Minister and Mayor of The Hague City decided to legally investigate accusations, in the media and parliament sessions, against Imams of mosques.

Dutch daily newspaper, De Telegraph, reported Thursday, June 13, that “what the Imams said is not direct instigation for violence, therefore it is not punishable by the law.”

Imam of a mosque in The Hague, Sheikh Fawwaz, during the Friday Sermon aired by Dutch TV, invoked curse on U.S. President George W. Bush and his assistants, in addition to Israeli Premier Ariel Sharon and his soldiers. Fawwaz said, “they will not get away with their evil acts”.

The three parties, participating in the new Dutch government - Christian Democrats, Liberals and Pim Fortuyn’s Party - have agreed on a bill, authorizing the police to repatriate more than 100,000 illegal residents. Half of that number is Muslim residents.

Al-Fateh Mosque in Holland


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KEYWORDS: holland; imam; islam; mosques; thenetherlands
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I will translate the articles on this case and post them soon. This case really caused a storm, and people are now asking themselves how it is possible all this is being allowed to happen.
1 posted on 06/16/2002 4:17:20 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: dennisw; OKCSubmariner; watchin; VOA; harpseal; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2...
Islam list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 06/16/2002 4:18:35 PM PDT by knighthawk
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3 posted on 06/16/2002 4:20:22 PM PDT by knighthawk
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What, that laws were proposed or that Mosques were virulent breeding places of hate, where Imans exhort the faithful to kill the infidel.
4 posted on 06/16/2002 4:24:06 PM PDT by tet68
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To: knighthawk
Too bad we can't shut down mosques here. This is where the terrorists do their best recruiting. I sure hope they're being watched.
5 posted on 06/16/2002 4:27:07 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: knighthawk
...Sheikh Fawwaz, during the Friday Sermon aired by Dutch TV...

I don't know if closing the mosque's, or suppressing the services is such a good idea, but there is absolutely no good reason to broadcast such nonsense.

6 posted on 06/16/2002 4:31:00 PM PDT by facedown
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To: knighthawk
Sounds good to me. Repatriate them all. They do nothing but live on welfare in Northern European countries, anyway, so this would probably be beneficial on many levels.

I have a Belgian friend who is (a) sick of paying taxes to support the Islamic colony in her country and (b) sick of not being able to walk around in her elderly mother's neighborhood (now nearly all Muslim) because of the harassment European women receive from these folks. (Apparently, rape of European women is considered a mere prank by young Islamic men.)

7 posted on 06/16/2002 4:32:01 PM PDT by livius
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To: knighthawk
It seems there is an "awakening" throughout much of Europe regarding immigration, liberalism, and, in particular, Islam.

May we have an "awakening" in the USA before too much longer, as well--before we are too infested with cockroaches.
8 posted on 06/16/2002 4:42:46 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: knighthawk
The Western democracies could ultimately find it necessary to close down mosques and to outlaw Islam. If Islam should prove to be more a subversive, imperialist, terrorist movement than a religion, there may be no other choice. Other international movements, e.g. communism and Naziism, have been outlawed.
9 posted on 06/16/2002 4:54:25 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: livius
Europeans and Americans need to halt immigration from Islamic countries and expel illegal aliens--and they need to do it NOW!
10 posted on 06/16/2002 4:56:57 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: knighthawk
I never thought I'd see the day that I would condone shutting down a house of worship, but I'm beginning to see that this is NOT a religion, it's a political movement that is doing everything in it's power to overthrow existing governments and to enslave or kill the people.

They should be shut down until proper clerics can be located.

11 posted on 06/16/2002 5:07:51 PM PDT by McGavin999
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"It seems there is an 'awakening' throughout much of Europe regarding immigration, liberalism, and, in particular, Islam."

If this be true, it is a historical event of major proportions, and it is cause for worldwide rejoicing.

Of these three problems--immigration, liberalism, and Islam--the most serious by far is liberalism. It is the root cause of the other two problems and the reason that they are problems.

If Europeans can think clearly enough to expunge liberalism, they can deal with immigration also, and they can manage to prevent Muslims from taking over European nations and converting them into Islamic theocracies.

12 posted on 06/16/2002 5:12:32 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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My last visit to Holland I had the good fortune of meeting one of those fundamentalists.....I think hes eating whole foods by now....
13 posted on 06/16/2002 5:20:07 PM PDT by CanisLupus
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To: knighthawk
Send all the Islamic SOB's home. They have become an enemy among us.
14 posted on 06/16/2002 6:04:04 PM PDT by blam
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They propose closing mosques in case they were involved in spreading “hatred instigating ideas”. This is an excellent idea. Of course, all the mosques will need to be closed since Islam is a hatred instigating idea.
15 posted on 06/16/2002 6:32:08 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: knighthawk
When a religion shows itself to be so dangerous to the social order (like Aztec human sacrifice, for instance), it's not only the right of the government to shut it down - it's the *duty* of the government to shut it down. If Islam in the West is going in that direction, so be it.

This limitation isn't unique to non-Islamic countries. The Turks are always getting criticized for stomping on religious freedom, but they know precisely whom they're dealing with & they keep their mosques on a *very short chain.* Unfortunately, the Turks don't allow religious freedom for any non-Muslims either.

16 posted on 06/16/2002 6:53:52 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: knighthawk
It is wrong to forbid worship, or any other type of speech, unless it is directly instigating violence. Through "hate speech" laws, they are already planning to shut down Christian preachers even in this country; they are already doing it in Sweden and Canada.

However, Holland could easily shut off immigration from non-EU nations. And should begin deportation of immigrants involved in anything more serious than a traffic ticket. And they should begin to do so now.

17 posted on 06/16/2002 7:36:48 PM PDT by marron
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I sure hope they're [US mosques] being watched.

Two more have opened their doors on Long Island in the last few months.

18 posted on 06/16/2002 9:27:39 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: knighthawk
I see absolutely no difference between shutting down mosques in Holland and the German government shutting down Scientologists wherever they arise. Both are sinister and dangerous cults. But Islam is murderous and a threat to Dutch (indeed the enitre West's) security.

Just because Islam has been around for centuries does not give it equal legitimacy with the two great religions, Christianity and Judiasm. Canabalism and human sacrifice has been around far longer, but is forbidden in the modern world. The West has been to the brink once before with the Armies of Islam. It will take some time, but soon Islam will be dealt with once and for all.

19 posted on 06/16/2002 10:48:49 PM PDT by montag813
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Two more have opened their doors on Long Island in the last few months.

Thanks for our Saudi "friends". Keep a watchful eye, my dear Freeper.

20 posted on 06/16/2002 10:51:10 PM PDT by montag813
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