City Attorney: Constitution of U.S. and Colorado null and void in Denver since 1906

Stanley for Senate ^ | May 16, 2002 | Not stated

[jwh_Denver]

"As I understand it," stated Bryant, "Judge Patterson just said that because I live in Denver, the Bill of Rights, and the constitution of Colorado, Article II, do not protect any of my rights from the government of Denver. Is that your understanding, also?" Bryant asked. "Is the city government free to deny all the rights secured to me by the Constitution of the United States, and the constitution of Colorado, so long as they only do it here, in Denver?" Bryant questioned.

"Yes," said the city's attorney. "The Constitution has no force or effect in Denver, because this is a home rule city."

[jwh_Denver]

Read the article: http://www.stanley2002.org/release5_16_02.htm

[Husker24]

I smell bullsh*t.

[IronJack]

"The Constitution has no force or effect in Denver, because this is a home rule city."

Then Denver residents needn't pay any federal (or state, for that matter) taxes, they needn't pay any Social Security withholding, or federal gasoline taxes. Nor do they need to serve in the Armed Forces if drafted. Or respect any of the regulations imposed by the federal government on land within Colorado (a sizable portion of that state, I might add).

If Colorado has indeed been exempted from Constitutional provisions, its citizens enjoy none of the protections that document accords, including the right to peaceably assemble, the right to confront witnesses and to compel testimony on their behalf, the right to be secure in their persons, etc..

I wonder if anyone else knows about this, or was this city attorney the sole privileged beneficiary of this arcane knowledge?

[Djarum]

Related thread - Denver Judge Axes the Constitution

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Constitution of U.S. and Colorado null and void in Denver since 1906

Well... this sucks pond water...

[jwh_Denver]

This is just for the city of Denver. I would assume according to this it becomes a soveriegn "state".

[andrew1957]

what does "Home Rule City" mean?, and how does it supercede the Constitution?

[jwh_Denver]

Home Rule City

I don't know what it means. The city attorney apparently was the one who said this.

[Tony in Hawaii]

We need some new words. "Idiot" just seems inadequate for this guy.

[xeno]

I found this on another site:

"The Home Rule Charter gives the City certain powers and is the constitution of the City. Amendments must be voted on by citizens. The City may include in its Charter any provisions that do not conflict with state laws or constitution. In matters of local concern, a home rule city can operate free and independent of state law. " (emphasis mine)

As a former resident of Denver, I'm oh so glad to be gone from the jurisdiction of great minds like this "attorney" and others left in the legacy of former Governor "Duty to Die" Lamm!!!!!

[litany_of_lies]

The City Attorney's statement appears to be a potential crack in the armor of The Leviathan. If Denverites really aren't subject to the US Constitution, all of the points in response #2 about residents not having to pay tax, etc. may be valid.

Is "home rule" a concept unique to Colorado? If present elsewhere and if enough people from "home rule" cities had the cajones to withhold their taxes, this brave man's conviction could be the start of something really big.

[jwh_Denver]

LOL! Come on back! You know more legally than the this putz attorney for Denver!

For the record, I don't live in Denver but in a burb adjacent to it. I did live in Denver for about 10 years though.

[Vince Ferrer]

Home rule cities and towns

Here is a link, although I can't see anything in this that claims the constitution is superceeded.

If true, it is good news and bad news. Not only are there no income taxes in Denver, Roe V. Wade just got wiped out. But on the other hand, if they get seven elected muslims on the city council, they can implement sharia law.

[jwh_Denver]

xeno on post #10 pretty much spells out the legality of this. The attorney is full of it.

[PatrioticAmerican]

As in all career fields, mine included, 10% of the people have no business being there, and 80% are below par. Of course, Denver is batting a 1,000 on that account. What a sh*thole!

[jwh_Denver]

%10 + %80 = %90. That's batting 1,000? In baseball batting 1,000 would be written 1.000.

[Swordmaker]

Here is the citation:

Section 8.  Conflicting constitutional provisions declared inapplicable.

Anything in the Constitution of this state in conflict or inconsistent with the provisions of this amendment is hereby declared to be inapplicable to the matters and things by this amendment covered and provided for.

[PatrioticAmerican]

Who said 10 + 80? I said batting 1,000. And written as 1.0 is also said as 1,000.

[nonsporting]

"The Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

How is it possible to disable the US Constution anywhere in the State of Colorado?

[Swordmaker]

Apparently it is possible when the Constitution is "some old musty document" and the Ordinance is something they want to enforce!