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School takeover threat relaxed
sacbee.com ^ | May 1, 2002 | Jim Sanders -- Bee Capitol Bureau

Posted on 05/01/2002 2:45:21 PM PDT by let freedom sing

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:35:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Most campuses now are facing softer sanctions by the state. Three years ago, California dangled big bucks in front of 430 low-performing schools but said any campus taking the money must significantly raise its test scores or be taken over by the state.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; davis; election; governor; polls; schoolfailure
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1 posted on 05/01/2002 2:45:21 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: elk grove dan;gophack;saundra duffy;diver dave; on the right side; right on the left coast...
Dimbulb Davis Dummies Down ping <))).
2 posted on 05/01/2002 2:50:46 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Great press when the idea is put forth. Reality is that nothing faces up to the ultimate performance requirement or out you go.
Try this one. You were advised the test is today but I'll postpone it until another day in case you aren't ready today.
Who is kidding who? Problem was supposed to go away, fix itself with our words of threat. No intention of following through on this.
Who loses? You only have to look at where the poor results are.
3 posted on 05/01/2002 4:11:59 PM PDT by tbird-james
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To: let freedom sing; diago
Once again, I feel the need to comment on the lack of attention amoung conservatives on the issue of education.

Public education is not going to go away, not matter how many times we put failing voucher initiatives on the ballot or how bad our schools get.

We need to remember that 90% of our children in California are educated (indoctrinated) in public schools. These are the children who will grow up and vote, work and have children of their own. We HAVE to care. My children go to private parochial school and I DO CARE about public schools. My children will be working side by side with those educated in public schools; they will be living in the same neighborhoods and their children will be playing with each other. If we don't start working to FIX the schools rather than simply complain about condom distribution and homosexual promotion, we have only ourselves to blame.

Yet, after ten hours, I am only the fourth post on this important thread. I have been on other education threads with similar disinterest amoung my conservative friends here on FR. And, I know that I'm preaching to the choir to those who are actually reading this. Yet, when we get a thread about homosexuals infiltrating our schools, we get 50 posts the first hour.

The fact is that Gray Davis CAMPAIGNED on accountability and fixing low-performing schools. Now, they are "relaxing" the law which would have the state take over failing schools. They have also LOWERED THE STANDARDS so fewer schools are considered FAILING. This is BIG NEWS and conservatives just don't seem to care.

Anyway, sorry for the rant because obviously YOU agree with me. I just wish I knew how to fix the problem ... and get conservatives involved in fixing education, not just complaining.

God bless.

4 posted on 05/01/2002 11:56:45 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: gophack;saundra duffy;diver dave; on the right side; right on the left coast; tbird-james...
The hottest buttons are the most sensational-- those are the ones RATs push. Davis chooses to pump money into minority "feel good" issues and programs to stay in the limelight and out of the spotlight.

Simon needs to keep pounding Davis on the budget mess that relaxed the takeover threat. Simon needs to constantly remind voters what the REAL state issues are-- education and the economy, like: "Where's the Budget?" It will be months before Davis and legislators are forced to accept what they've done to ravage CA.

Voters must be assured that school funds are used exclusively for students-- not for extraneous "feel good" subliminal lib political nonsense and rhetoric, or to pad district offices, expense accounts and retirements.

5 posted on 05/02/2002 12:50:39 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
On another thread, Wayne Johnson the President of the liberal CTA said that while Davis has increased education spending by 30%, none of it has gotten into the classrooms.

Where's all this money going?

6 posted on 05/02/2002 12:57:36 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
A good question-- where does all that money go? We know schools paid mucho bucks for energy, the energy crisis pummeled the budget, and Davis still looks over "the rainbow" at buck-passing issues and shady political alliances-- these intercept allocations from student education to substitute liberal programs that fail students. Davis abuses CA children-- Davis allows failing schools to continue to fail.
7 posted on 05/02/2002 1:48:00 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
I posted on another thread:
I heard late last night on KNX1070 (radio in LA) that because of the projected budget deficit, there may not be enough money for a state takeover of the failing public schools. California now has only nine "failing schools" because the threshold for "failing" was lowered to save money.

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Now that the budget deficit projection has ballooned, there might be insufficient funds for the nine failing schools to be taken over by the state. So, perhaps nothing will happen to them yet.



The news media keep parroting Davis' optimistic claim that he has raised test scores. If that were so true, then
(1)why would the state need to lower the threshold for failing?
(2)why will we likely get a slate of education bonds on the November ballot?

According to the rosy picture Davis paints about test scores and smaller classrooms class sizes, there should be no failing schools, and all the higher test scores would have lifted the "failing" schools into true success instead of an artificial "pass" created by a lower pass/fail threshold.


I'm pretty sure I heard "nine" because I remember it seemed impossibly low, but it may well have been a different number, X.

The X failing schools was reduced from a much higher number of schools that would have been categorized as "failing" before the qualifying performance bar was lowered (at least once). What I heard was that even the X schools might escape the takeover, because the state may not have enough money and because the state has no administrators/teachers who would know how to take over a school.

From this article, it looks like these X schools will be forced to hire "intervention teams," which means more money spent on administration and overhead, but less money for anything directly affecting the students.

8 posted on 05/02/2002 5:02:41 PM PDT by heleny
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To: Gophack
Gray Davis CAMPAIGNED on accountability and fixing low-performing schools.... They have also LOWERED THE STANDARDS so fewer schools are considered FAILING.

I hope more parents realize this, too, and evaluate Bill Simon's solutions or other improvements. I also hope the voters realize that more education bonds won't solve any problems.

9 posted on 05/02/2002 5:53:17 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
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10 posted on 05/03/2002 12:12:45 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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