More Immigrants on Welfare Despite Reform

Fox News ^ | 28 March 2002 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

WASHINGTON

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

Wonder what Bill Simon can do with this. Why is Gray Davis' California possibly the only state seeing an increase in immigrant-fueled welfare costs, hm? But, as important as it is, this is an issue that deserves considerable finesse. Simon needs to point out the fiscal irresponsibility and enormous cost of Davis' policies without coming off as a mean, nasty extremist. The good news is: if anyone can do it, Bill Simon can.

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

FYI & bring all your friends.

[FITZ]

Every state but Texas rushed to institute programs allowing legal immigrants to apply for food stamps, Supplemental Security Income for the elderly, and cash assistance.

They're getting it somehow in Texas. I don't even see English speaking people using food stamps or Medicaid ---every single time I see someone using a Lone Star food stamp card, they're speaking nothing but Spanish and look like they just crossed over the river.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

In 2000, 26.7 percent of immigrants in California received welfare assistance.

There you have it. More than one-fourth of the immigrants in California are on welfare. That certainly sounds like a recipe for the inevitable bankruptcy of the state. Let's see the "open borders" people show up and defend that.

[hoot2]

"FYI & bring all your friends. "

the whole world is on our welfare role...

[cutlass]

You people had better wake up. The US is being invaded, and your precious Repubs are complicent. Better buy guns, better buy guns better buy guns. I promise you, you WILL need them.

[The Vast Right Wing]

This evidence does NOT suggest reforming our immigration laws. It suggest ending the welfare state.

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

Why not both?

[Joe Hadenuf]

They're getting it somehow in Texas.

Quit bashing Bush!

[Tancredo Fan]

You people had better wake up. The US is being invaded, and your precious Repubs are complicent. Better buy guns, better buy guns better buy guns. I promise you, you WILL need them.

That's good advice. Gray Davis killed Prop. 187, an initiative that would have ended all services used by illegal aliens. No legal immigrant should ever be on the dole. Remember that sponsor thing? The ball is getting dropped left and right. Now I hear that Gray Davis wants illegals in California to be able to get driver's licenses... even after 9/11. That man is a moron! California is literally infested with deportable illegal aliens.

[GrandMoM]

bump

[Travis McGee]

The American Southwest is going to be "Big Kosovo" in 20 years, with Mexicans as our Albanians.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Gray Davis killed Prop. 187

Correction, *our* Federal Government killed Proposition 187. However, Davis, the goat humping, socialist traitor was in favor of destroying our free election too.

[koba]

You have written about this many times. Do you think America will be intact by the year 2020, or so? What do you think will happen? I mean, Yugoslavia broke up, the Soviet Union broke up, do you see this happening in America?

[Travis McGee]

Well, history rarely moves in straight predictable lines, so any prediction is just a guess.

But the Kosovo model seems apt on many levels.

At a certain demographic tipping point, it becomes impossible for a border region to control its frontier, since local governments are controlled by pro open immigration recent immigrants. This process really snowballs into an unstoppable avalanche in the later stages, which we are approaching.

Once the border states become majority Mexican, the radicals will become emboldened, and push for Spanish only laws and other flagrant displays of power. The most radical will snipe "anglo" police and politicians to provoke a response, the radicals will flee into the barrios. The police response will create collateral victims, and (the radicals hope) new recruits to the radical cause.

I think we could see terrorism and guerrilla war in the Southwest within 20 years. I would not buy real estate within 100 or 200 miles of the border.

I hope I'm wrong, but I recall how the Kosovo Serbs used to love their "cheap Albanian labor".

[B4Ranch]

How many MILLION illegals are represented in 26.7%?

[koba]

Yeah...overall I can see your scenario possibly happening. With 100,000 whites leaving California each year, with Texas soon to have Hispanics as the most numerous ethnic group, with Hispanics booing the U.S. sooccer team in L.A. while cheering the Mexican team, with the high rate of Hispanic fertility (3.44 babies per woman vs. 1.8 white babies/woman), and with other factors, it looks like things will get interesting in the Southwest.

I always saw England as Greece, the bearer of culture to the world, and America as the Roman Empire, powerful with serious internal weaknesses. The Roman Empire did collapse while Greece, like modern England, slowly faded away...

Of course, there is a Darwinian argument that could be made here. If Hispanics are more numerous and the whites are generally only interested in luxuries and not producing offspring don't the Hispanics "deserve" the Southwest? Philosophical question of course...

[Travis McGee]

To answer your last question first: a people who grow too lazy and decadent to defend their turf don't, in the long run, deserve to keep it.

The thing to keep in mind, which folks don't seem to realize (yet), is that this type of border immigration situation really picks up speed exponentially. It will suddenly seem to grow by leaps and bounds, and before you can say "Roberto es me Tio", you are living in Amexica, with "Spanish Only" laws, etc.

We are in the beginning stages of that "takeoff phase", and "we ain't seen nothin yet."

!APRENDE ESPANOL HOY, EVITA LA PRISA!

[koba]

Or, as Arnold would say, "HASTA LA VISTA...BABY"