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But, but, but It s For The Children, Right?
Free Britannia Journal ^ | March 20, 2002 | Greg Collins

Posted on 03/19/2002 9:26:26 PM PST by MadIvan

This week brought news headlines screaming eighty-nine people arrested as part of the FBI’s Internet kiddie-porn ring. The FBI had targeted the worst of the worst in its nationwide operation ironically code-named “Candy Man”. Of those taken into custody, five were members of the clergy – specifically two Catholic priests and three clerics of other denominations.

However, it is these five arrests that have liberals rejoicing. The left considers those in the Christian faith as historic adversaries impeding their deviant agenda for decades. They are relishing the moment of having a laugh at the expense of the church.

Putting aside the liberal catcalls and hoots for a moment, it is necessary to remind the left they are overlooking a few details as they celebrate. Details? Like what?

Liberals like to toss out statistics claiming this behavior exists at a level of about 10% among Catholic priests. However, multi year studies about true pedophilia in the Catholic Church (defined as sexual contact between an adult and a child) indicate this type of abuse is actually very rare among priests.

According to Pedophiles and Priests (Anatomy of a Contemporary Crisis) by Philip Jenkins, the best estimate is about 0.3% of the entire body of Catholic clergy. By contrast, best estimates on the level of this type of criminal predatory behavior place to around 5% of the general population.

Another problem for lefties is that simple mathematics indicates another eighty-four people were arrested. So this begs the question of where are the mighty cries of shame directed at these people? Why only just direct vitriol at five members of the clergy?

There are three reasons.

First, several of the others arrested are in vocations typically making up a large part of the left leaning “base” of support. They were teachers, guidance counselors and other types of social works. All part of a “base” that can be counted upon to vote in like minded fashion in matters of interest.

Any criminal acts committed by members of these groups are almost always hushed up or afforded protective status by the left leaning mainstream media. Pshaw, you might say, do such double standards actually exist? The answer is unless you have had your head firmly planted in an interior body cavity, they most certainly do.

One example of this collusion that can be seen daily is the double standard applied to any luckless American politician, who is arrested, indicted or sentenced guilty. If the perpetrator has the party affiliation of Democrat, then that information is conveniently omitted and the story buried in the paper.

If the perpetrator belongs to the GOP, the story makes page 1 with the words “Republican” part of the article title. Usually in large case bold font. This penchant to left leaning editorial decisions is widely known. It can be observed on an almost daily basis by anyone with eyes and the willingness to open them.

Simply put, it is not in the best interest of the media who are actively pursuing a collectivist agenda to embarrass their allies or fellow travelers in socialism. This most definitely includes sexual predators amongst them.

Second, always consider self-interests of the left’s allies. In other words, follow the money.

By their nature, churches of all faiths are extremely sensitive to serious charges involving their employees. Rightly or wrongly, this makes the church vulnerable to cases of abuse and thus they are inclined to settle out of court. The result is a virtual gold mine for lawyers while the perpetrator is shuttled out of the picture, and the victim gets “justice” in the form of compensation minus hefty fees and expenses.

To aid this trial lawyer based moneymaking effort, allies in the media gleefully report on the rare cases of clerics gone bad. The goal appears less in the interest of the public’s right to know, and more toward making sure the point is not lost on churches that next time, it could be “them”.

Third, the crux of the matter is this. It’s my contention the real issue here is homosexual predatory pedophilia. This means almost without exception, these cases involve abuse of men against boys. The left, especially cronies in the press, do not want to point out the obvious fact that homosexuals are documented as being over represented as sexual predators.

This wolf in sheep’s clothing approach is not limited to religious positions as these arrests could have easily been coaches, scout leaders and others whose work allows them close proximity to children. In all of these arrests, it seems clear these marauders followed the time tested pattern of assuming roles of authority and trust in order to gain nearness to potential victims.

Sexual predators of any political persuasion are criminals. As such, they should be dealt with swiftly and harshly. The left has neither the interest nor willingness to judge what is right and wrong.

The left lives in a world of gray in order to avoid making uncomfortable moral judgments. Their philosophy has left them unable or unwilling to criticize sexual predators as evil. As a result, as a group, they are morally bankrupt.

This position and lack of response is hardly surprising considering how duplicitous this group is. Nothing shocking at all to learn they prefer to embrace hypocrisy through criticisms of the church while happily avoiding the deviancy that oozes from their own political allies like swamp scum.

As parents or grandparents, our children are precious gifts from God. None of us intend our small loved ones become unwilling sexual toys for predators. If we remain silent, we offer tacit consent for these monsters to continue molesting our children.

Our voices, raised to high volumes, must be raised collectively to make it clear this type of behavior will not be tolerated.

We conservatives owe it to all children that we remain vigilant of those forces that, in the name of “tolerance”, are merely fronts for pedophilia. What we are facing is a real direct threat to our kids, and our society as a whole.

It is my opinion conservatives are obliged to take a vanguard role in raising our voices as loudly as possible against this evil that pervades our society.


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allies; homosexualagenda; sasu; uk; us
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To: MadIvan
Yay for BSA-- they started cleaning house before the liberals could accuse them of sheltering 3% of potential child molesters.
21 posted on 03/19/2002 11:18:44 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: grlfrnd
Yep, the media will NEVER admit this group of priests are actually GAYS.

Again, too bad people can't think for themselves and actually see the big picture here.

22 posted on 03/19/2002 11:20:04 PM PST by oremus
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To: grlfrnd
Thanks.

Good old infallible Google promptly found me the following website.

http://www.humanbeing.demon.nl/ipceweb/index.htm

Not for the easily disgusted. This is a group that campaigns for "tolerance and understanding of those attracted to children and young people."

Makes me wish I knew how to launch a cyber-attack on their site.

23 posted on 03/19/2002 11:24:30 PM PST by Restorer
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity;longshanks;livius;CdMGuy; Campion;Renatus;father_elijah;electron1
ping
24 posted on 03/19/2002 11:25:45 PM PST by oremus
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To: Restorer
Note the "demon" in the address.
25 posted on 03/19/2002 11:26:34 PM PST by oremus
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To: oremus
I saw that. It seemed appropriate, although the "humanbeing" seemed misplaced.
26 posted on 03/19/2002 11:31:07 PM PST by Restorer
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To: oremus
Then they go and tell us that the problem is that priests need to be able to marry. Now that makes sense. Marry whom? Teenage boys?

The molesters probably wouldn't marry anyway. Their superiors, though, might tend to do a lot more about this problem if they had personally experienced just how precious children are to their parents.

I'm not sure that a non-parent can really know how a father feels about his children.

27 posted on 03/19/2002 11:47:02 PM PST by Bob
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To: Bob
I'm a non-parent. I understand....and the good dads really do care, the good parents do. Maybe not totally understand, but I know how my husband-to-be feels so protective over me. I'm not sure we're going to have kids (he doesn't want any due to the state of the world), but we have cats and he's great with them (they're our children :)
28 posted on 03/19/2002 11:55:39 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: grlfrnd
As the parent of two, I certainly feel extraordinarily protective of my girls. But I think any decent adult feels something of the same desire to protect any child, not just his own. I know I do.
29 posted on 03/20/2002 12:27:25 AM PST by Restorer
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To: MadIvan;grlfrnd
The difference between the liberals and the Christians is that the liberals would legalize this behavior. These guys belong in prison and the Christians are just as oppose to these guys as they are other deviants.
30 posted on 03/20/2002 3:38:28 AM PST by Khepera
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To: MadIvan
BTTT
31 posted on 03/20/2002 4:14:05 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: grlfrnd
), but we have cats and he's great with them (they're our children :)

I HATE cats!

32 posted on 03/20/2002 4:38:28 AM PST by Renatus
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, one other point. The lefties will begin their yelps about ending celibacy in the church and calling for marriage.

My question would be - to what end? These were homosexual attacks in the vast majority. Unless the goal is "normalizing" homosexual marriage, and I think we know that's probably the bottom line.
33 posted on 03/20/2002 5:05:58 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: MadIvan
Re: The Left, Hypocrisy, & Homosexual Pedophilia

Very excellent points.

35 posted on 03/20/2002 5:49:11 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Khepera
Yeah. Um...wasn't there some sort of position paper floated by the entirely lib/PC APA some while ago which tried to question whether sex with minors was really such a bad thing after all? Has the media forgotten their own ideological fellow travelers' role here? How come "the Church" is being investigated while NAMBLA has escaped virtually unnamed here with their perverted website still in action?
36 posted on 03/20/2002 5:54:30 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Restorer
Re: # 13

May I suggest the neologism "teenophile" and homosexual "teenophile" just to keep things straight.

37 posted on 03/20/2002 6:03:19 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Renatus; grlfrnd
I HATE cats!

I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Those little stinkers can sense it, you know.

I'll bet cats go out of their way to spray the bushes in your yard.

38 posted on 03/20/2002 6:27:44 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: MadIvan;Khepera;erizona;FormerLib;grlfrnd;Mortimer Snavely;Lucius Cornelius Sulla;Restorer...
"Third, the crux of the matter is this. It’s my contention the real issue here is homosexual predatory pedophilia. This means almost without exception, these cases involve abuse of men against boys. The left, especially cronies in the press, do not want to point out the obvious fact that homosexuals are documented as being over represented as sexual predators."

Note to the liberal press:

It's the homosexuals, stupid!

Sex before 8 - or it's too late! Craige McMillan on how media covers for homosexual child abusers

"... "Ho, hum," says the U.S. media. "Don't bother us. We're busy. We have these water buckets we're carrying for NAMBLA." Those initials stand for the North American Man Boy Love Association. Their long-standing motto, "sex before eight – or it's too late," only recently revised, makes their intent pretty clear.

Homosexuals, as represented in the U.S. media, come in only two varieties: upstanding citizen and persecuted victim.

Do homosexual priests rape choirboys? Not in medialand. There, Catholic priests abuse children – a phrase that's so gender-inclusive, and manages to twist one's attention onto the Catholic church, not the homosexual men who have made inroads into the clergy so they can prey on the innocence of children.

Do homosexual pastors rape congregants? Not in medialand. There "ministers are found with naked teens" and charged with "unlawful sex acts with a minor." Such inclusive language … my, isn't the media open-minded and progressive? We'd never guess it was male pastors and little boys, would we?

The media is too busy raping the Christian church on its news pages, the Boy Scouts during its evening news broadcasts, and the military in its editorials and at its cocktail parties. No, Mom, Dad, Grandma and Grandpa don't warrant the truth, because it just might slow down the bucket brigade, and imply that homosexuals could possibly be, like the rest of us, just a smidgen short of sainthood..."


(More information here)

39 posted on 03/20/2002 6:48:11 AM PST by EdReform
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity;MadIvan
"Um...wasn't there some sort of position paper floated by the entirely lib/PC APA some while ago which tried to question whether sex with minors was really such a bad thing after all? Has the media forgotten their own ideological fellow travelers' role here?"


Pedophiles Argue Their Case in the Journal of Homosexuality

The Problem of Pedophilia

More on the Pedophilia Question

On Positive Reports of Adult-Child Relationships: Taking a Closer Look

On the Pedophilia Issue: What the APA Should Have Known

Is Pedophilia Really Being Normalized?


As Mary Eberstadt wrote in "Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered - The taboo against sex with children continues to erode:

"...For elsewhere in the public square, the defense of adult-child sex—more accurately, man-boy sex—is now out in the open. Moreover, it is on parade in a number of places—therapeutic, literary, and academic circles; mainstream publishing houses and journals and magazines and bookstores—where the mere appearance of such ideas would until recently have been not only unthinkable, but in many cases, subject to prosecution...

...Plainly, as the record even then showed, a surprising number of voices were willing to rise up on behalf of what advocates refer to as "man-boy love," or what most people call sexual abuse..."

For one thing, no sustained public challenges have arisen over other primal taboos. Even more telling, if nihilism and nihilism alone were the explanation for public attempts to legitimize sex with boy children, then we would expect the appearance of related attempts to legitimize sex with girl children; and these we manifestly do not see. Nobody, but nobody, has been allowed to make the case for girl pedophilia with the backing of any reputable institution. Publishing houses are not putting out acclaimed anthologies and works of fiction that include excerpts of men having sex with young girls. Psychologists and psychiatrists are not competing with each other to publish studies demonstrating that the sexual abuse of girls is inconsequential; or, indeed, that it ought not even be defined as "abuse."

Two examples from the last few weeks will suffice to show the double standard here. In the November 12 New York Times Book Review, a writer found it unremarkable to observe of his subject, biographer Gavin Lambert, that when "Lambert was a schoolboy of 11, a teacher initiated him [into homosexuality], and he 'felt no shame or fear, only gratitude.'" It is unimaginable that New York Times editors would allow a reviewer to describe an 11-year-old girl being sexually "initiated" by any adult (in that case, "initiation" would be called "sexual abuse"). Similarly, in mid-December the New York Times Magazine delivered a cover piece about gay teenagers in cyberspace which was so blasé about the older men who seek out boys in chat rooms that it dismissed those potential predators as mere "oldies." Again, one can only imagine the public outcry had the same magazine published a story taking the same so-what approach to online solicitation, off-line trysts, and pornography "sharing" between anonymous men and underage girls."


Additional information:

Seven Steps to Recruit-Proof Your Child

HOW TO PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN FROM PRO-HOMOSEXUALITY PROPAGANDA IN SCHOOLS

Assemblyman MOUNTJOY opposes promotion of homosexuality in public schools

Research Group Warns Schools of Homosexual Propaganda

40 posted on 03/20/2002 7:24:51 AM PST by EdReform
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