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Fundamentalists re-create Eden, with dinosaurs
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 03/10/2002 | Oliver Poole

Posted on 03/09/2002 4:05:28 PM PST by Pokey78

AMERICAN scientists are outraged over plans for a multi-million-dollar museum dedicated to telling the nation's schoolchildren that God made the world in seven days and that Darwin is a fraud.

The backers of the $14 million (£10 million) Creation Museum and Family Centre, which is to open in 2004 close to the Ohio River in Kentucky, boast that the structure will act as an antidote to the "brainwashing" taught in science museums worldwide.

Exhibits will include re-creations of the Garden of Eden and Noah's Ark. A giant double helix of DNA will be suspended in the middle of the hall in order to argue that living creatures are so complex that they could not have evolved by random mutation.

Real fossils will be used to demonstrate how scientific methods such as carbon dating can be wildly inaccurate, and life-sized dinosaurs will illustrate the belief that they lived alongside Adam and Eve in a period before the Fall, when animals, man and dinosaurs cohabited, free from violence.

Ken Ham, whose Answers in Genesis ministry is behind the project, said that the museum was a long overdue offensive against the scientific establishment.

"This is a cultural war," he said. "They need to know we're coming. We're not doing this to say: 'Here's the evidence for and against, now you decide.' We admit our bias right from the start.

"The Bible is not a science textbook. But where it touches on science, we can trust it. This is the truth."

The only other museum in America dedicated to "creationism" - the theory that the Bible's Genesis story is both literal and accurate - is at the Institute for Creation Research near San Diego in California.

It covers 3,500 sq ft and will be dwarfed by Mr Ham's Creation Museum, which will include a 50,000 sq ft exhibition hall and 47 acres of outdoor trails and displays. Some exhibits have already been purchased, including the DNA and dinosaur models, in addition to a walk-through replica of a human cell.

Answers in Genesis already puts out a faith-based family magazine, a technical journal detailing the "science of creation", a daily radio programme that is broadcast on 400 stations across the United States, and pamphlets distributed worldwide on subjects such as "Where Did the Races Come From?".

A recent survey in the magazine Scientific American reported that 45 per cent of Americans believe that God created life some time in the past 10,000 years, despite the vast majority of scientists maintaining that life in its simplest form first appeared 3.9 billion years ago and has been evolving ever since.

Eugenie Scott, the director of the National Centre for Science Education, said that the new creationist museum was a sermon disguised as scientific study intended to hoodwink the public. "The authoritarian presentation of this information is likely to confuse people into thinking that these are scientifically valid views," she said.

"Science is not a democratic process. Once an idea is proved wrong, you don't continue to present it. The idea that everything on Earth appeared all at once 10,000 years ago has been disproved."

In recent years Christian fundamentalists have been accused of targeting small towns and placing supporters onto the local boards of education in a campaign for more teaching time to be spent on creationism. Two years ago the Kansas Board of Education reversed a decision to ban mentions of Darwin in schools after a public revolt voted a number of its members out.

To the outrage of the state's scientific community, Ohio is proposing a similar initiative to forbid teaching of scientific evolution. Similar propositions are also to be debated soon in New York State and Massachusetts.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
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1 posted on 03/09/2002 4:05:28 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
BTTT!!!
2 posted on 03/09/2002 4:07:49 PM PST by Alas
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To: Alas
AMERICAN scientists are outraged

Gee once upon a time they were outraged if such a think had federal money attached to it. Now they are just outraged...

3 posted on 03/09/2002 4:09:56 PM PST by Swanks
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To: Pokey78
There's bad science, rotten science, and Young Earth Creationism.
4 posted on 03/09/2002 4:11:24 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Pokey78
life-sized dinosaurs will illustrate the belief that they lived alongside Adam and Eve in a period before the Fall, when animals, man and dinosaurs cohabited, free from violence.

Well that's interesting. Carl Everett, the short-fused Red Sox outfielder who has thankfully gone to the Rangers, said the dinosaurs never existed, because there is no mention of them in the Bible.

Which is it?

5 posted on 03/09/2002 4:11:39 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: Swanks
My guess is that few scientists are outraged....most are amused.
6 posted on 03/09/2002 4:12:58 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: crevo_list; PatrickHenry; longshadow; jennyp
Here-we-go-again Luddites-on-the-march Bump!
7 posted on 03/09/2002 4:13:28 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Pokey78
[L]ife-sized dinosaurs will illustrate the belief that they lived alongside Adam and Eve ...
I hope they remember to include Fred and Wilma ...
8 posted on 03/09/2002 4:16:22 PM PST by eastsider
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I hope they remember to include Fred and Wilma ...

Yabba dabba doo!

9 posted on 03/09/2002 4:17:13 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: longshadow; jennyp; radioastronomer; scully; junior; crevo_list
A little bit of the famous "list-o-links" (so the creationists don't get to start each new thread from ground zero).

01: Site that debunks virtually all of creationism's fallacies. Excellent resource.
02: Creation "Science" Debunked.
03: Creationi sm and Pseudo Science. Familiar cartoon then lots of links.
04: The SKEPTIC annotated bibliography. Amazingly great meta-site!
05: The Evidence for Human Evolution. For the "no evidence" crowd.
06: Massive mega-site with thousands of links on evolution, creationism, young earth, etc..
07: Another amazing site full of links debunking creationism.
08: Creationism and Pseudo Science. Great cartoon!
09: Glenn R. Morton's site about creationism's fallacies. Another jennyp contribution.
11: Is Evolution Science?. Successful PREDICTIONS of evolution (Moonman62).
12: Five Major Misconceptions about Evolution. On point and well-written.
13: Frequently Asked But Never Answered Questions. A creationist nightmare!
14: DARWIN, FULL TEXT OF HIS WRITINGS. The original ee-voe-lou-shunist.

The foregoing was just a tiny sample. So that everyone will have access to the accumulated "Creationism vs. Evolution" threads which have previously appeared on FreeRepublic, plus links to hundreds of sites with a vast amount of information on this topic, here's Junior's massive work, available for all to review:
The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [ver 16].

10 posted on 03/09/2002 4:17:24 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: jlogajan
Bam. Bam. Bam, bam, bam!
11 posted on 03/09/2002 4:17:41 PM PST by eastsider
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To: Pokey78
I think I will put up an Elvis-Sightings museum next door. I mean if the sheep are there, might as well fleece 'em.
12 posted on 03/09/2002 4:18:28 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: VadeRetro
All I want to know is whether splifford the bat will have a prominent display.
13 posted on 03/09/2002 4:18:29 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Pokey78
AMERICAN scientists are outraged over plans for a multi-million-dollar museum dedicated to telling the nation's schoolchildren that God made the world in seven days and that Darwin is a fraud.

"Oh no! Fundamentalist Christians are going to reinforce their beliefs about the origins of life!"

Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't it a tad rediculous for scientists to be outraged by a creationist museum? As long as they aren't being forced to go there, who cares? If someone wanted to open a museum focused on debunking Newton, I might chuckle at the idea but I wouldn't be outraged.

Sure, maybe the museum's founders are incorrect in their beliefs. But does it really matter if people think God created Adam and Eve, instead of believing in evolution?

14 posted on 03/09/2002 4:19:31 PM PST by timm22
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To: VadeRetro
Luddites is right. Worse than Luddites, really. The Catholic Church long ago felt threatened by the sun-centered solar system, but long since has accepted this fundamental truth:

Scientific truth does not disprove anyone's core religious faith.

Those who feel the need to re-write science in order to maintain their faith:

a) have a very weak grasp on their own faith and need to re-inforce it with a "war against science"

b) misunderstand the true nature of faith and the true nature of science.

IMHO

15 posted on 03/09/2002 4:20:12 PM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Exactly!
16 posted on 03/09/2002 4:21:48 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Pokey78
Ohio is proposing a similar initiative to forbid teaching of scientific evolution.

I hope they don't forget the selective-breeding loophole.

17 posted on 03/09/2002 4:21:56 PM PST by KurzeHaare
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To: timm22
isn't it a tad rediculous for scientists to be outraged by a creationist museum?

Well to make the article true, you'd only have to find two such scientists in the entire universe (since it was plural.) Pretty safe bet.

But as someone said, more like amused than outraged for most of the rest of us. I think it would be a fun tour. Can you imagine the outright horselaughs along the route? I mean Laurel and Hardy play acted at being stupid -- but these folks are the genuine article! What fun!

18 posted on 03/09/2002 4:24:00 PM PST by jlogajan
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19 posted on 03/09/2002 4:25:58 PM PST by Frank from Michigan
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To: RJCogburn
because there is no mention of them in the

...And God prepareth the great monsters...
Gen 1:21

20 posted on 03/09/2002 4:26:13 PM PST by Pistias
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