Posted on 05/06/2024 5:29:09 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
After more than two years of fighting against return-to-office mandates, workers are fed up with their bosses’ inflexible policies and are taking their battle to court.
Zacchery Belval, a designer from Connecticut who has congenital heart disease and severe anxiety, was fired after refusing to return to the office. Despite submitting several doctor’s notices about his medical need to work from home, his employer denied his request citing in-person job duties. Now, he’s suing the company in the U.S. District Court of Connecticut.
“They just said either you come back … or you’re fired,” Belval said. “It was literally screaming matches with management every day saying, ‘Hey, this is about health,’ and management going, ‘We don’t care.’” As companies across the United States increasingly take a hard-line stance on office mandates, an increasing number of workers are elevating their complaints to court and federal labor agencies like the National Labor Relations Board and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Workers argue that mandates can be unjust, discriminate against people with disabilities and is a retaliatory action against unionization efforts. Employers that have backtracked from flexible work argue that being in the office is necessary as it improves company culture, collaboration and productivity. The outcomes of these cases could be critical and force employers to reevaluate their policies, some lawyers say.
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So--you're saying that kids and adults have the same work ethic?
“So—you’re saying that kids and adults have the same work ethic?”
Yep. Most. There are exceptions, but a huge number of employees do as little as they think they can get away with.
but the people who were not really important nor essential got to stay home, most not working, just getting paid, and now the companies want them in the office and the poor liddle dears are just too sick and lazy to do it.....
but it was okay to expect nurses and doctors to be there for your every whim and call, or for the restaurant workers to be available, or the cops to patrol, because none of these people have children....
geez louise...talk about self absorbed..cry me a river....
do you know how many Christmas mornings are "missed" by doctors,cops, nurses, and firemen?......
Exactly. If they want a stay-at-home job they should look for one. Not take a at-work job and then try to turn it into working at home because of whatever. You got hired as an at-work employee; if you don’t want that find another job.
It appears to me that Electric Boat Corporation DID reasonably accommodate this putz. They still let him work from home a few days a week and he wants all of them at-home.
If his health is as bad as his claims are, then he just needs to file for SSDI and be done with it, like all the rest of middle age Americans who are tired of working and want an easy way to retirement before the required age is reached.
Some people do better in one rather than the other.
When I had a private office, I was as efficient as working at home. I’d go back to a private office without issue.
But when I was in a cube farm or bullpen, my productivity decreased. I’d look for a new job before working like that again.
Going back to covid, I stayed at the office instead of working from home, much to the annoyance of a few coworkers.
Then, when everyone came back with masks, I requested to work from home, as I wasn’t dealing with the mask security theater. Again, to the annoyance of the same coworkers.
So you would rather the taxpayer pay his way than GE allowing him to be productive by working from home?
Suddenly every office worker thinks they are a wounded combat veteran. “I have PTSD from having my red stapler taken away”.
If he signed on EBC in working at-work condition, it is up to him, not EBC. I’ll bet you he certainly didn’t tell EBC about all his medical conditions, anxieties, congenital heart defects, etc. I’m getting the sense here that he wouldn’t be ‘productive at home’ anyway, especially he’s involved in ‘shouting matches,’ etc.
To him, EBC’s temporary accommodation because of Covid and the medical leave alternatives he exercised, he thinks continuation is a RIGHT now. This country is full of people looking for early-outs, particularly ones that no longer want to work and are too young to retire on SS. His lawsuit for pay, etc. and pain and suffering are his way out.
???
This thread is about adults in the workforce, not children in school.
...but yes, the increase in homeschooling was from parents who became aware that their children weren't learning much worthwhile in school.
Inner city and very rural students would be well served to homeschool and learn remotely.
You may be right. That information can only be inferred.
So... who is YOUR Mommy who makes sure you do your homework?
Seriously, I agreed in my first post that SOME people make it work. But a LOT do not. There is a reason for the proverb, “While the cat’s away, the mice will play!”
Even when I was in the military, outside of the people whose lives were on the line (fliers), there were people who needed supervision or who would not get squat done.
There is also a synergism when a team meets together to get things done - one that does NOT exist online.
Bottom line, though, is that the people owning and managing the business get to make that decision. For better or worse. Not employees, not courts, and not government.
“I shut down around 3PM and immediately walked out onto my deck with a cold beer.”
Whoa, hold on a second!
You WAITED ‘TIL around 3PM and then grabbed a beer?!
What is wrong with you?
Belval’s wish to work from home sounds reasonable, with his health, if he has a good or supreme work record.
I'm the one telling them to do their homework.
Any company spouting a line that they need face-to-face compliance doesn't have performance metrics.
No commute. No boss. Working from home is more of a technicality as you can work from anywhere in the world, including the Philippines or Ecuador and pocket the difference in rent.
One of my neighbors talks about going into the office, and if you are among the last 20% to arrive in the day, you get to try to work in the lunch area, and the last few percent don’t get table space.
At home, she has a pair of 42” UHD curved monitors. In the office, she has two 1080*1200 monitors if she arrives early (how early depends upon the day of the week). Otherwise it is just her laptop screen. For this privilege she also has to pay city taxes to work in a dangerous part of the city, and can’t work late unless she wants to go to her car after security goes home.
LOL those jobs all work standard workweeks too, none of them are 24/7. And what the heck kind of straw man argument is it to bring in other people to try to negate the regret I feel at missing my kids growing up. Talk about a nonsensical argument.
And lastly I do not expect any of those individuals to be at my beck and call whenever I want them to be. I think it is fair to assume that there is more than one of each of them doing those jobs.
Most do not. There is a reason few people learn online as well as they learn in classes.
That is a better comparison for what happens in many companies.
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