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US Airline CEOs request meeting with Boeing in wake of 737 MAX blowout: report
NY Post ^ | Mar 21, 2024 | Shannon Thaler

Posted on 03/22/2024 9:18:35 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

A group of major US airline CEOs have reportedly requested a meeting with Boeing’s board to express concerns over production problems following near-disastrous fuselage blowout aboard an Alaska Airlines flight.

The airline chiefs want Boeing directors to spell out their plan for fixing quality problems at the aircraft maker as US regulators scrutinize the company following the Jan. 5 incident on a 737 MAX, people familiar with the matter told the Wall Street Journal on Thursday.

Boeing has responded by offering meetings with chairman Larry Kellner, a former chief executive of Continental Airlines, as well as other board members as early as next week, sources told the Journal.

Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun — who fought back tears while “acknowledging our mistake” that caused the blowout at 16,000 feet and led to an emergency landing — is reportedly encouraging the meetings, the Virginia-based aviation giant confirmed to the Journal.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airlines; alaska; alaskaairlines; boeing
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To: Mouton

(The decision to use a 50yo airframe and attach too large engines)

And there went the center of gravity


21 posted on 03/22/2024 10:29:59 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Amazing how everyone seems to think this is all the fault of Boeing and it’s DEI policies. While the problems in the news can be the result of design flaws, they can also be the result of poor maintenance by the airlines, who we know are also hiring using DEI policies. So, until we get more real information, not just news hype I’m going to hold off judging Boeing. Unless there are design flaws, once Boeing sells the aircraft to an airline, it is the airlines responsibility to do the maintenance and keep them flight worthy.


22 posted on 03/22/2024 10:35:10 AM PDT by falcon99 ( )
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To: traderrob6

This is controlled demolition. “DIE” isn’t hard to understand. They want to destroy American business, and they’re going to do it with “DIE.” This is a globalist elite idea that’s bearing a lot of fruit. Going to Airbus, a French company, means another iconic American business goes into the scrapheap.

There’s no way out of this. American business is being deliberately demolished.


23 posted on 03/22/2024 10:36:34 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Enterprise
So, when are you going to let the incompetent employees go and replace them with people with proven skills and experience?

With our current state of (RE)education (aka indoctrination)...one has to start wondering...

...how much competence is actually out there?

I live in a small/rural community...the yutes that work at the local grocery store all seem distant, almost...programmed. And when I occasionally go to stores in more populated communities...there's this need among the yutes to be "special-er"...tattoo's, florescent hair color, clown-costumes...

Sometimes I wonder if we ARE witnessing Idiocracy/other dystopian scenarios becoming reality.

And now with Juiced-Joe's puppet-masters ordering him to allow the dumping of the 3rd world ignorance into the country by the millions...

Seems as if the "overlords" are winning, humanity is being "molded" to their desires.

If asked...I bet close to half this country thinks Trump and his followers should be "removed" from society...living.

That shouldn't shock anyone...seeing as MSM and academia plant that kind of hate firmly in their little heads(of mush) on a daily basis(while projecting the other way)...and neither(MSM and academia)try to hide that fact, why should they...there are no consequences on their end. Their propaganda does not rely on selling product/traditional ANYTHING anymore...they are being fed by the bottomless pit of (corrupt) monies from the overlords pulling their "build-back-better" strings.

...and what is being built obviously cannot include anything traditional...all that has to be razed and hauled off to a landfill, courtesy of indoctrinated generations viewing ANYTHING associated with "traditional" as...."EVIL".

24 posted on 03/22/2024 10:54:33 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: Mouton

The MAX was a bad idea all around. I agree about the engines they knew it was a weight distribution problem so they put that crappy software that caused two total disasters. They wanted to cut all kinds of corners to get the FAA blessing faster than building a new plane from scratch. They also didn’t have all the airspeed redundancies - it was optional to have two or more. Most airlines went with just one and if that one failed there was no system to check it. It was just wrong and the pilots and software went with bad information from a faulty indicator. So many mistakes.

This issue with the doors is also an FAA problem. They build the fuselage to put a door there. But if the airline has a fewer number of seats the FAA regs say they don’t need those extra emergency doors. So Boeing plugs that hole with a panel. Apparently that panel is poorly designed. I had read that the bolts don’t all align with the holes in the fuselage. Now you would think that would stop production - I mean this is not IKEA furniture where you end up with a couple of extra screws somehow, but the cabinet still stands up. This is a pressurized airplane with 100s of people hurtling through the skies at 400 MPH. It has to fit perfectly and be sealed perfectly. How they did this is unconscionable. Or why they didn’t just put the emergency doors like it was designed for, and tell the airlines this is the way it comes.


25 posted on 03/22/2024 10:57:57 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Boeing will continue to fail as long as the Biden Crime Syndicate wants the competing Chinese manufacturer of Jets to take over a larger share of the market for jets.


26 posted on 03/22/2024 11:01:59 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: RckyRaCoCo
"Sometimes I wonder if we ARE witnessing Idiocracy/other dystopian scenarios becoming reality."

It is amazing, but true. Idiocracy is reality now in so many ways.

27 posted on 03/22/2024 11:12:32 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: T.B. Yoits

Great follow up questions!


28 posted on 03/22/2024 11:13:29 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

How ‘bout they start placing orders with Airbus? Korean Airlines just did. Boeing is toast. There’s no fixing something as poorly conceived as their business model.


29 posted on 03/22/2024 11:44:32 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: monkeyshine

“Fix your sh*t or we’ll buy Airbus”

There’s some real irony there. They decided in 2011 to compete with Airbus by NOT making a completely new jet, but by mounting the much larger engines up higher and more forward, causing serious aerodynamic problems at high angle of attack. It is an inherently unstable design that should not be used on passenger aircraft. They wrote the “MCAS” software to counter that inherent instability. But MCAS needs reliable angle of attack measurements and you cannot get that with only two AOA sensors. Guess how many were installed on most 737 MAX? Yes, two.

So they wanted to beat Airbus 23 years ago but wind up losing to Airbus because of that bad decision to not build a new airframe.


30 posted on 03/22/2024 12:21:04 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: SaveFerris

Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays

Whoever came up with “Didn’t Earn It” as the description of DEI might have saved the world.

Normally, the clever alternative names people use to mock the other side’s policy are nothing but grin-worthy.

This one could collapse the whole racist system. It’s that strong.

3:26 PM · Mar 21, 2024

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1770894676939153569


31 posted on 03/22/2024 12:31:29 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Nice!

It’s well-worth repeating, OFTEN


32 posted on 03/22/2024 12:33:16 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: falcon99
While the problems in the news can be the result of design flaws, they can also be the result of poor maintenance by the airlines, who we know are also hiring using DEI policies.

Boeing subbed out the build of the fuselage to a company that failed to secure the hatches properly on brand new aircraft. The engineers at Boeing also designed a hatch that should never fit out the door without having to be rotated and turned sideways. Maintenance crews weren't yet involved in those problems.

Alaska Airlines got lucky no one was ripped out of their aircraft when that hatch blew. They're lucky it didn't fail at 40,000 feet.

The decompression after the hatch failure blew open the door to the cockpit showing that Boeing also lied to passengers, the FAA, and everyone in the U.S. when they stated that the doors to the cockpit were secure from terrorists.

33 posted on 03/22/2024 3:07:26 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Re: Post 31

Scott Adams "Whoever came up with “Didn’t Earn It” as the description of DEI might have saved the world..."

I first saw it in a tweet from Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray on March 19th.

34 posted on 03/22/2024 3:13:30 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Right_in_Virginia
"Our schools and colleges are laying a guilt trip on those young people whose parents are productive, and who are raising them to be productive. What is amazing is how easily this has been done, largely just by replacing the word "achievement" by with the word "privilege". - Thomas Sowell
35 posted on 03/22/2024 3:22:18 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits; All

And Now . . . .

Boeing CEO to step down in broad management shake-up as 737 Max crisis weighs on aerospace giant

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/25/boeing-ceo-board-chair-commercial-head-out-737-max-crisis.html

CEO Dave Calhoun will step down at the end of 2024 in part of a broad management shake-up for the embattled aerospace giant.

Larry Kellner, chairman of the board, is also resigning and will not stand for reelection at Boeing’s annual meeting in May. He will be succeeded as chair by Steve Mollenkopf, who has been a Boeing director since 2020 and is a former CEO of Qualcomm. Mollenkopf will lead the board in picking a new CEO, Boeing said.

And Stan Deal, president and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, is leaving the company effective immediately. Moving into his job is Stephanie Pope, who recently became Boeing’s chief operating officer after previously running Boeing Global Services.


Golden Parachutes for all of the C-Suite ! ! !


36 posted on 03/25/2024 9:03:28 AM PDT by Texan4Life
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