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To: Red6; Fred Nerks

This is the accurate history that every American should know about Ukraine.

Thank you for posting it.

What happened with the Minsk Accords is a travesty.

IN fact, this is an Obama based violation of Minsk.

The way I look at it Obama unleashed demographic warfare with his Arab Soring campaign, pointed at the soft underbelly of Russia and Ukraine. Millons of Muslims were o the march NOrth, but Putin was having none of it.He seized Crimea to prevent the huge migration of Muslims into Russia and Ukraine, thereby diverting the masses of Muslim refugees to attempt other means of entering Western Europe rtaher than Eastern Europe.

Putin powed Obama repeated ly for the fascist that Obama was...BIden continues this foolery by subjugating Ukraine economically and violated the Minsk accords in a continuation of Obaa;s anti Russia policy, IN fact the Obama Dems and their lefty Marxist supporters made a false boogie man oout of Russia.

I do not support the expansionist wet dreams of Putin, but the fact is that Obama and Biden created this mess by violating the Minsk accords.NOw Biden will not truly allow Ukrauie t9i defend itself, sending meere trickles of ordance to Ukrauine , creating a staoemate in the DOnbas and assuring war for years to come, if not a nuclear war. In addition Obama/Biden’s violation of the Minsk Accords
cryuatalized an anti westren axis of China, Iran,Russia and NOrth Korea, with Oran soon to have buclear weapons.

This is waht these liberal fascists like CLinton, Obama, Biden, Jake Sullivan and Anthony Blinken have done. They have put EUrpe and America on the path to war and niw we must face it by increasing US military spending .

America is not stuoid...why do yiou think recruitihg is down, who wants to die in the Donbas next to a couple of transgender queers in an adjacent fox hole corn holing each other?

Its time to oust these leftist idiots we have and get back to preserving world peace through deterrance.Then is we have to fight, well at least we will have been prepared.


49 posted on 03/12/2024 3:05:37 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=300</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Candor7
Obama and Biden are for sale, literally.

Biden in his first months in office made sure every special interest (which pay for his party, personally enrich him or his family, paid for his campaign and helped pay for the last elections), got what they wanted.

1. Big tech does not need to worry about being broken up because of their monopolistic position (Meta, Google, Amazon): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Trade_Commission_v._Meta_Platforms,_Inc. This is all fading away now. Do you think it is a mere coincidence that Mr. Zuckerberg gave liberally (>$419 million in the last elections) to the election system? https://nypost.com/2021/10/14/zuckerberg-election-spending-was-orchestrated-to-influence-2020-vote/

2. The Unions have an easier time to organize, and all larger federal construction contracts go to union based firms (blatant discrimination against non-union firms - even if they are the lowest cost which means “F” the tax payer): https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/biden-cements-labor-agreement-requirements-for-federal-projects

3. Trade with China got stabilized and some of the restrictions dropped, some of the folks involved in major violations of the law were let go: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58690974

4. Of course the oil pipeline gets canceled, for the environment (who actually believes that shipping it via train is cleaner?): https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/09/tc-energy-terminates-keystone-xl-pipeline-project.html And Buffet's (a big Democrat donor) railroad which ships this oil is doing very well.

5. Big pharma can go back to price gouging since the restriction placed on them to control costs were immediately lifted, as in the first week: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/politics/biden-trump-drug-prices/index.html or https://www.policymed.com/2021/10/biden-administration-rescinds-trump-administration-insulin-pricing-rule.html Under Trump, medication produced in the US, could not be sold for more in the US than what was being charged in foreign markets. However, Biden replaced this policy with his own convoluted policy in order to seize the headlines and not be criticized, and our moron MSM played along.

EVERYONE that paid, got to play.

Ukraine is another such scenario.

Ukraine was an economic gem not because of resources like Libya, Syria, Venezuela and Iraq (all Russian aligned which we are trying to strip from them), but because of an educated labor pool, preexisting industry, infrastructure... Ukraine was a nation where 40% of their electricity was nuclear, a literacy rate that is >99%. They have a better literacy rate than the US, they are a time sensitive culture, fairly stable, without excessive crime... Leading Western manufacturers were interested in producing there, our own government was conducting a lot of research and work there...

NATO provides the physical security and stability which our big corporations and financial institutions seek. The EU provides the regulatory stability, market access, and harmonization of policies. Together these organizations create an environment where big business feels comfortable investing billions. Furthermore, for the US, EU without NATO membership is a bad proposition since this diminishes our influence/role in Europe. It is through NATO that we (the US) have a lot of influence. That is why Minsk was NOT very appealing to us, even though that was a way to lasting peace. Minsk would have undermined our role and importance, so we never supported it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements (Where does this include us? It ultimately undermined our role and importance so we never supported it.)

Biden gave everyone that can “pay to play” and has a political value to him and his party what they wanted.

This war in Ukraine was unnecessary, predictable in that it would happen especially post Ukraine 2014 and Georgia 2008 (Russia wasn't putting up with our BS along their border anymore), and finally predictable in outcome. I tend to believe that we knew this war would likely ensue (no one can be that stupid - our folks get intel briefs etc.) but just didn't give a $hit and were maybe even hoping for it. For us, it was a “win-win situation.” Either Russia acquiescence regards Ukraine in which case we win with little cost, or Russia invades and even if Ukraine loses parts of Eastern Ukraine, Russia gets depleted which makes our efforts in Syria, Venezuela, Libya, Iraq, Niger and Nigeria easier (all places where we are butting heads with the Russians). ***The loser here is of course Ukraine whom we are pretending to help.***

The idea that this is about democracy is ridiculous, since Ukraine is not a democracy. The idea that this is about sovereignty is absurd, since Ukraine is a US satellite state (under our control post 2014). Finally, the notion that human rights are a consideration is nearly ironic, since Ukraine has a horrible human rights record.

Fact is, we have no problem making deals with warlords, recruiting radical Islamist types (if they are the enemy of our enemy), forging alliances with opiate producers that oppose the Taliban... Our #1 trade partner is a single party communist regime in China, which occupies Tibet and threatens Taiwan, runs internment camps, oppresses religion, makes dissidents disappear, executes more people than any other country on this planet, has questionable organ harvesting policies, forced abortions and a one child policy until not to long ago. Our true center of gravity in the Middle East and what we have our entire Middle East strategy built around is Saudi Arabia, a kingdom which still chops people up by the sword and from where some of the more radical strains of Islam come from and financed, example: Wahhabi movement, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

Point being, when folks throw these feel good concepts like democracy, human rights and sovereignty around, it's just a bunch of junk. We don't really give a $hit about that and are willing to install a dictator as long as he does what we want, and Mr. Z is exactly that, even though no one in the West calls him such: https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/12/07/time-zelenskyy-d49b22ce606e3d91d7b557e47df61e664072190e.jpg Our man of the year, the champion of human rights, democracy and sovereignty is involved in political assignations, closing down radio stations and news papers that dare say something derogatory, banning all opposition parties, censoring the news media in Ukraine, classifying pretty much anything which doesn't agree with their agenda, banning HAM radios so you don't dare listen to something he don't want you to hear, and canceled future the elections (and we don't even talk much about that).

116 posted on 03/12/2024 11:16:48 PM PDT by Red6
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