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Proof that nixing vax dissent backfired
New York Post ^ | Feb 21, 2024 | Marc Siegel

Posted on 02/21/2024 8:29:04 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

As a primary care physician, I administer vaccines on a regular basis, from flu to tetanus to pneumonia to shingles.

I bring these vaccines out during doctor visits, and I discuss the pros and cons with my patients while the vaccines are being displayed.

I am completely open about potential side effects.

The core vaccine conversation between doctor and patient is a risk/benefit analysis.

It’s a discussion, one in which the patient decides.

One of the big mistakes made by the Biden administration with the COVID vaccines is not having this discussion.

Rather than keeping expectations realistic — telling folks that the vaccine would lessen the severity of COVID, instead of preventing a patient from getting it — the administration forced as many as it could to get the jab through mandates.

Instead of being up front that there was a slight risk of side effects, the administration put pressure on social media companies to censor any discussion.

Now we have research data from the Global Vaccine Data Network that detail exactly what risks accompany the COVID vaccines......

The benefits of the vaccines far outweigh the risks, particularly for older Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: censorship; covid; covidvax; dissent; freespeech; mandates; socialmedia; vaccine; vax; vaxmandate
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To: TheConservativeBanker

They never apologized, they just made more excuses.

The medical community destroyed its credibility as professionals during covid. It was learned they few ‘doctors’ every did anything but follow protocols and procedures given to them by corporations that owned the hospitals and by the government.

Any idiot can be a doctor doing only that.


21 posted on 02/21/2024 10:02:37 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I noticed the Article does not give the doctors name. Unless the author is the doctor. And that is not stated. But if that doctor even exists then I would not want to go to them. They are a quack.


22 posted on 02/21/2024 10:04:58 AM PST by Revel
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To: CodeToad

They did it to protect themselves from predatory lawyers. If you follow “protocols” even stupid protocols you’re better protected from lawsuits. Organizations with agreed upon rules are never wrong at least that’s what lawyers think. Using your own training, education, judgement and experience leaves you vulnerable because you can make mistakes or just be wrong. The public demands perfection and lawyers are there to guarantee it for the right fee even if it’s impossible. It’s all billable hours!


23 posted on 02/21/2024 10:09:46 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; All
Thank you for referencing that article where's_the_Outrage?.

"What exactly are the benefits of the "vax"?"


Government contract windfall profits imo.

Alleged problems with CV19 experimental jab: (The following list not intended to be complete.)

Also, note that the most significant rise in CV19 hospitalizations as of Nov. 18, 2023 are the dark orange and light orange-colored states above the vitamin D3-deficient southern border of Kansas imo, corrections, insights welcome.

Vitamin D - The Sunshine Vitamin (non-FR)

Finally, I still wonder if medical history might have turned out happier if vitamin D3 had been discovered before vaccines were discovered and CV19 experimental jabs had been invented.

24 posted on 02/21/2024 10:45:07 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Changing the definition of “vaccine” to cover this shot was not a smart idea either. It’s not a vaccine by any stretch of the imagination.


25 posted on 02/21/2024 10:45:12 AM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: Revel

“I noticed the Article does not give the doctors name”

From the bottom of the article about the author: Marc Siegel, MD, is a clinical professor of medicine and medical director of Doctor Radio at NYU Langone Health and a Fox News medical analyst.


26 posted on 02/21/2024 10:52:21 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

No benefits, all risk.


27 posted on 02/21/2024 12:35:44 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Empire_of_Liberty; where's_the_Outrage?
>> This doctor sounds as though he is still in deep denial of his own culpability in all this. <<

Since the advent of the Wuhanitis-based oppression of lay people by he medico-media profiteers in 2020, I have experienced the absolute refusal of medical professionals to read any of the well-researched truthful virus/"vaccine" studies published in reputable scientific journals and trade magazines that diminish or negate their medical "advice."

I myself as a degreed PhD in the hard sciences, having and conducted and published the results of personal research in my own professional area, have seen that most MDs have never really accomplished that kind od effort themselves, so are not generally fit to insist on their own believability without further literature references to back them up in their cook-book medication practices.

Even the "fathers" of the mRNA gene-modifying immunity substances who themselves have warned the practitioners and their public of the uncertainties and dangers of the broad administration of these inoculations, are ignored, rejected, and shut out of the decision-making councils on whether or not to enforce mandates.

I have done my own literature research on this topic, and on this basis have decided for myself early on to never permit my body to be inoculated with these substances. I hope that others will do their own investigations, and make their own reasoned decisions, reserving the advice of their personal physicians as merely being another questionable dimension of their knowledge base.

To me, the "primary care physician" writing the above article is just another ill-advised con artist promoting his own righteousness in this contentious public health arena. Against it, let us consider the much wiser author of this Biblical passage:

Ecclesiasres 7:16-18
16Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself
17Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time? 
18It is good that thou shouldest take hold of this; yea, also from this withdraw not thine hand: for he that feareth God shall come forth of them all. 
Fellow FReader, determine to fear God Whose way is to take all the facts into consideration, and depart from satanic evil counsel by making a wise decision on this matter.
28 posted on 02/21/2024 5:27:18 PM PST by imardmd1 (To learn is to live, and in living, to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; Revel

Siegel has been on Sid Rosenberg’s radio show multiple times. He sounds like a reasonable guy.


29 posted on 02/21/2024 8:27:34 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The so-called vaccine should be outlawed for old people. They are the least capable of surviving a damaged immune system and all the other effects.

The vitamins suggested here with ivermectin is such an effective and sane strategy.


30 posted on 02/21/2024 8:49:12 PM PST by mom.mom (...our flag was still there.)
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To: Reily

Good comment on the legal liability aspect of this stuff.

It definitely turns science into mushy groupthink.

As long as everybody follows the party line they escape legal responsibility if anything goes wrong.


31 posted on 02/21/2024 8:56:03 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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