Posted on 02/08/2024 8:54:33 PM PST by Kazan
Tucker Carlson released his interview with Vladimir Putin on Thursday night. During the interview Tucker asked Putin about the Nord Stream Pipeline.
Tucker Carlson: Who blew up Nord Stream?
Vladimir Putin: You for sure.
Tucker Carlson: I was busy that day. I did not blow up Nord Stream.
Vladimir Putin: Thank you. You personally may have an alibi, but the CIA has no such alibi.
Tucker Carlson: Do you, you have evidence that NATO or the CIA did it?
Vladimir Putin: You know, I won’t get into details, but people always say in such cases, look for someone who is interested. But in this case, we should not only look for someone who is interested, but also for someone who has capabilities. Because there may be many people interested, but not all of them are capable of sinking to the bottom of the Baltic Sea and carrying out this explosion. These two components should be connected. Who is interested and who is capable of doing it.
Tucker Carlson: But I’m confused. I mean, that’s the biggest act of industrial terrorism ever, and it’s the largest emission of CO2 in history. Okay, so if you had evidence, and presumably given your security services, your intel services, you would that NATO, the US, CIA, the West did this, why wouldn’t you present it and win a propaganda victory?
Vladimir Putin: In the war of propaganda, it is very difficult to defeat the United States because the United States controls all the world’s media and many European media. The ultimate beneficiary of the biggest european media are american financial institutions. Don’t you know that? So it is possible to get involved in this work, but it is cost prohibitive, so to speak. We can simply shine the spotlight on our sources of information and we will not achieve results. It is clear to the whole world what happened, and even american analysts talk about it directly.
The Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines were blown up by explosions measuring 2.3 on the Richter scale, in 230 ft. of water, in two spots 40 miles apart. German, Danish and Swedish authorities promised investigations but have not published official findings. On March 27, 2023, the UN Security Council rejected calls by Russia and China for an international investigation.
On Feb. 8, 2023, veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh published a detailed account of how the Biden administration’s National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan instructed the CIA to destroy the Nord Stream pipelines in December 2022, well before the start of the war. Hersh’s detailed account remains the most convincing version of the events, although it is routinely either “debunked” or ignored by the mainstream press, who prefer to speculate about anonymous Ukrainians who blew up the massive, 3 inch thick concrete and steel pipelines using a sailboat.
Writing again on the anniversary of the attack , Hersh revealed new details from his intel source about how the Biden administration misled the CIA into thinking the sabotage plans were meant to deter Putin and preserve peace, while instead aiming to cripple Germany economically and make sure Germany did not succumb to Russian pressure.
“The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine, Hersh wrote “It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas—and that Germany and then NATO, for economic reasons, would fall under the sway of Russia and its extensive and inexpensive natural resources. And thus followed the ultimate fear: that America would lose its long-standing primacy in Western Europe.”
Hersh’s source explained “the real reason why the Biden administration brought up taking out the Nord Stream pipeline.” While Russia was supplying gas and oil to the world via more than a dozen pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2 ran directly from Russia through the Baltic Sea to Germany.
“The administration put Nord Stream on the table because it was the only one we could access and it would be totally deniable,” Hershs CIA source told him. “We solved the problem within a few weeks—by early January—and told the White House. Our assumption was that the president would use the threat against Nord Stream as a deterrent to avoid the war.”
Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland was clearly involved in the plot, Hersh writes, since on January 27, 2022, she “stridently warned Putin that if he invaded Ukraine, “one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward,” while noting that “We continue to have very strong and clear conversations with our German allies.”
When German chancellor Olaf Scholz visited Washington on February 7, 2022, Joe Biden warned that “If Russia invades … there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” Asked by a reporter how he could promise this since the pipeline was under Germany and Russia’s control, Biden said: “We will, I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.”
Olaf Scholz did not seem fazed by this threat. “We are acting together. We are absolutely united, and we will not be taking different steps. We will do the same steps, and they will be very hard to Russia”, Scholz said.
To the CIA team planning the attack, this signalled that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz was “fully aware of the secret planning underway to destroy the pipelines,” Hersh’s source told him.
At this time, the intel community took this as confirmation their task was “to come up with a plan that would be forceful enough to deter Putin from the attack on Ukraine,” Hersh writes. “We did it. We found an extraordinary deterrent because of its economic impact on Russia. And Putin did it despite the threat,” Hersh’s source said.
It took two expert US Navy deep sea divers “months of research and practice” along with Norwegian seamen, who found the spot to plant the bombs, before the mission was deemed a go. “Senior officials in Sweden and Denmark, who still insist they had no idea what was going on in their shared territorial waters, turned a blind eye to the activities of the American and Norwegian operatives. The American team of divers and support staff on the mission’s mother ship—a Norwegian minesweeper—would be hard to hide while the divers were doing their work. The team would not learn until after the bombing that Nord Stream 2 had been shut down with 750 miles of natural gas in it,” Hersh writes.
Despite Biden’s threat, Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022. Nonetheless, the White House told the CIA planning group “to plant the necessary bombs and be ready to trigger them ‘on demand’ even after the war began,“ Hersh writes. After the charges were planted in June 2022 as part of the BaltOps military exercise, the team was disbanded. The explosion was later triggered by a single Norwegian fighter plane “dropping of an altered off-the-shelf sonar device at the right spot in the Baltic Sea,” Hersh writes.
“It was then that we understood that the attack on the pipelines was not a deterrent because as the war went on we never got the command,” Hershs source told him. “We realized that the destruction of the two Russian pipelines was not related to the Ukrainian war but was part of a neocon political agenda to keep Scholz and Germany, with winter coming up and the pipelines shut down, from getting cold feet and opening up” the shuttered Nord Stream 2. “The White House fear was that Putin would get Germany under his thumb and then he was going to get Poland.”
“So the president struck a blow against the economy of Germany and Western Europe,” the source told Hersh. “He could have done it in June and told Putin: We told you what we would do.” The White House’s silence and denials were, he said, “a betrayal of what we were doing. If you are going to do it, do it when it would have made a difference.”
Vladimir Putin was not pushing anything during the Tucker Carlson interview that millions of Americans already knew.
“...citizens are screwed no matter who takes the country...”
The 2020 Election had “a consequence” for Ukraine...
https://www.britannica.com/topic/history-of-Ukraine/Independent-Ukraine
Tucker FTA: it’s the largest emission of CO2 in history.
Volcanoes emit more and CO2 is plant food that creates oxygen. Tucker may be a believer in the scam global climate change.
“Everyone in Europe believes the USA did it.”
At YouTube, Biden PROMISES the pipeline would be stopped.
The 2020 Election had consequences:
Without Trump in office—Ukr invasion becomes a certainty.
Taiwan next?
Mexico invades.
Finland and neutral Sweden frightened into NATO.
Gaza afire.
Venezuela warming to Iran.
Canada run by an anti-trucker Fascist?
A million citizens and soldiers succumbing and the end isn’t in sight!
If one indirectly advocates a position, he implies. If one deduces that another is advocating a position, he infers.
Same here.
"I ain't no Senators son." '
You didn’t listen to Orban’s actual words, did you? It’s pretty scary stuff, probably more truth than you can handle. That’s OK, Karine Jean Pierre will reconfirm your three rogue Ukes in row boat explanation. Putin looked pretty good for a survivor of three fatal bouts with cancer, two liver transplants and an assassination. Anything the media masters say, right?
So who would benefit the most if the US was responsible for also blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline?
Burisma?
Anyone who wants to toss around terms like scum needs to review the sorts of people who have taken the Russian line uncritically in the past.
This entire situation is more complex than a proxy war between Jesus and globalism. And Jesus usually finds better help than former (possibly not) KGB agents.
As for anyone fearing this interview, probably nobody regularly on FR was among said group, I can agree that the DC establishment would fear it. To call patriotic citizens with long and distinguished posting records on FR scum and cowards is an undignified descent into leftist-type ad hominem attacks that we don’t want or need here.
If you support Putin and Russia, fine, say so and explain why. And expect a lot of blowback because that position is very difficult to sustain in a conservative opinion forum.
Well of course it is. It was obvious right from the start. Only the most stupid of gaslighting propagandists would even try to claim otherwise. Biden even said publicly in advance he was going to do it.
Que the Victoria Nuland phone call.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k
There it is. Concrete proof that the Deep State orchestrated the 2014 coup AND that the Deep State was pulling the strings on who gets installed in power in Ukraine.
Russia’s reaction is very similar to what America’s reaction would be if this were Mexico and if there were a coup to install an Anti-American puppet with Russia or China pulling the strings. ie, we wouldn’t tolerate it for a second.
Exactly. Mexico is the analogy I drew as well. Pointing out that Ukraine is very much Russia's back yard and that they could no more be expected to tolerate that kind of meddling in Ukraine and possibly Ukraine joining an alliance aimed squarely at them any more than the US would tolerate it if a hostile superpower were doing that in Mexico does not make any of us a "TOOL OF PUTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" It makes us realistic.
My question is: Why?
Why was it "necessary" for us to meddle in Ukraine knowing full well that Russia was going to be very sensitive about this? Why did we just have to push and push and push all the way up to Russia's borders instead of leaving Belarus and Ukraine as a buffer zone between NATO and Russia? Why did we have to do so after Russia spent at least 20 years explicitly warning us not to do that?
What was so all fired important that we felt the need to go miles and miles out of our way to piss Russia off? Aside from being the largest nuclear power on earth, Russia is also the largest commodity supplier on earth. They have tons and tons of things the West very much needs - grain, fertilizer, gas, oil, timber, metals, etc etc. Why not try to foster if not friendly, at least non hostile relations with them to both keep them out of China's embrace and to keep them economically integrated with the West to both theirs and our benefit?
What did we hope to gain that could possibly have been worth the certainty of driving such an important country into China's arms? Our ability to apply pressure one China via naval blockade if worse ever came to worse, just got a lot weaker now that China can get a lot of the commodities it so desperately needs from its new best buddy right next door. Brilliant guys - just freaking brilliant. *SMH*
In the war of propaganda, it is very difficult to defeat the United States because the United States controls all the world’s media and many European media. The ultimate beneficiary of the biggest european media are american financial institutions. .... We can simply shine the spotlight on our sources of information and we will not achieve results.
I have about another 30 minutes to watch.
For me, that was a daisy cutter dropped by Putin!
Zelensky was a puppet placed by Obama and co. Ukraine has a lot of sex slavery and drugs for Europe just like Mexico for us. Obama and co use these countries to promote drugs and sex because it pays to keep Americans addicted while they work day and night to erase America as it was founded.
Ukraine, like Obama’s Syria is simply a European pipeline war.
If the globalists out Putin they get at least two home runs… one.. all the natural resources and two the slave labor to obtain it.
The CIA has done nothing but attack disposable populations in our own country, how much more so in a natural resource rich country.
Then they get to keep their money laundering. Sex and drug machine in Ukraine running full speed. While taking the money to support it off our tables.
They are spending more money on Ukrainians than our very own country,
Putin has been a bad guy, but is he worse than the string of presidents and their war machines.
These leaders are no worse than the Somalia first squad.
Excellent.
George W Bush is an anti American leftist.
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position is very difficult to sustain in a conservative opinion forum.
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Not after things like the Steele Dossier and Russia Russia Russia..
It’s very easy to root against the Swamp,the CIA and the co conspirators of the Wuhan Flu Coup..
None of those were ‘Russia’..
You’re running on empty newbie.
I’ve seen every charge that could be made to vilify a nation, tossed out to
denigrate the Ukraine. Actually, there are civilians that live there that are just
trying to live their lives like you and me. Many of them are Christian’s. The
Ukraine is also known as the Bible Belt of Europe. The Christian’s there run
publishing houses that produce religious literature that is shipped around the
planet.
So we can talk about leadership that is as corrupt as our own if we want.
We can avoid what the leadership is like in Russia if we like.
The people of the Ukraine are not deserving of this. Even the Russian
troops forced to be there are not deserving of what they are going through.
Putin needs to pull his force home and knock it off.
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