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Useless Degrees, An Analysis
American Thinker ^ | 01/09/2024 | A. Welderson

Posted on 01/09/2024 9:48:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind

For a long time now, the debate has raged as to whether it’s worth going to college anymore. The libertarian view on this question has typically been along the lines of… if people are foolish enough to waste money on worthless degrees, the world will soon enough teach them another lesson.

While valid, that view ran aground on the Democrat vote-buying scheme to insulate those with useless degrees from the consequences of their poor choices and indebtedness, with our tax money.

The cynical motives behind this ploy aside, I very much doubt many students enroll in college with the intention of eventually being bailed out by their fellow citizens. These bright, young minds have simply bought into the hype that a college degree, any degree, is the ticket to prosperity. That might have been mostly true, back in the day when the people who ran higher education actually focused on educating.

In the past, a degree could give someone who was willing to work hard a leg up on competition. Somewhere along the road, we lost sight of the fact that hard work was the not-so-secret essential ingredient, not that scrap of paper with the fancy calligraphy on it. Through greed and cowardly moral blindness, grifters who run our colleges have transformed these venerable institutions into the educational equivalent of shady time-shares.

Although the rot is extensive and accelerating, there are still college degrees which might be worth the time and money thrown at them—medicine, science, engineering, and a few others. Better learn fast though. These disciplines remain only relatively uncorrupted because they’re harder to infiltrate. In the spirit of the hard sciences, it’s informative to analyze which college degrees are the more useless, and why. Rational analysis, scorned as patriarchal, racist, and colonialist, comes in handy when exposing scams.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: college; degrees; tuition
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To: rellic
Nice.

How about literature?

41 posted on 01/09/2024 12:57:21 PM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia

“.... make education only about practical, calculable results .....”

I really don’t know how you can say that! Almost all leftists avoid any mathematics-oriented discipline like it has plague, dengue fever, Ebola & covid! They with all almost no exception emphasis emotionalism over rational thinking! So, they stuff the colleges\universities with unusable content free laughable courses. The former Harvard president but still well-compensated Dr (Ha!) Gay is a prime example!


42 posted on 01/09/2024 12:59:56 PM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
If no one majors in this, then who will be able to teach school (K-12)?

People who got legitimate subject matter degrees will be able to teach school. Indeed, they'll do a better job. They'll actually know what they're talking about.

43 posted on 01/09/2024 1:01:56 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Reily
Of course it's possible to say in referring to the history of education. You point out is a more recent, sinister development.

All that aside, I'm hearing an underlying suggestive voice that literature, humanities, and the liberal arts are useless. That illiteracy is OK and nothing wrong with that.

44 posted on 01/09/2024 1:06:04 PM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia
One does not learn to read in college. One learns to read much earlier than that.

I used to see a bumper sticker: "If you can read this, thank a teacher".

Hmmm ... If you say so ...

Then I saw: "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran"

Hmmmmm ... OK.

Thanks, Dad!

45 posted on 01/09/2024 1:10:59 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

As a kid, I was interested in history, especially dark age history, in large part thanks to a book authored by Isaac Asimov.

I got separate degrees in History and Latin while an undergrad. I then got a master’s degree in medieval canon law at Columbia at the same time Barry Soetoro was allegedly attending. I wrote my thesis on the preface to the Pseudo-Isadorean decretals.

I enjoyed it. I still read a lot of history today.

And I got to spend a year in New York on Columbia’s dime.

Plus, it got me into law school.


46 posted on 01/09/2024 1:13:10 PM PST by TheConservator (Either the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State!--President Donald Trump)
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To: NorthMountain

What they don’t tell you! You can teach your four year-old child to learn to read a foreign language before they learn English (English will come by osmosis).


47 posted on 01/09/2024 1:14:34 PM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia

As currently constructed and taught they are useless!

Correctly taught they are foundational. However, that won’t happen for a long time. If one has a library card its one’s own laziness that makes them ignorant of literature and humanities. People self-teach themselves IT and other business skills all the time the same can be done with literature and humanities.


48 posted on 01/09/2024 1:18:21 PM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: NorthMountain
One does not learn to read in college.

Here's my take on this. To learn a skill, you need a leader. For example, to excel in a sport, with an instrument, or with a craft, you need a master. This is true with language and literature. The little kid learns to read because Dad knows how to read. The poet Dante picked Vergil. There is a famous quote by Tarkovsky who directed the masterpiece "The Sacrifice" during his last remaining days. Tarkovsky himself, the master, is saying, "I'm looking for a teacher." I have to tell you, a teacher turns you around to see with new eyes.

49 posted on 01/09/2024 1:22:29 PM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia

Published once in 1996. Paper with the International Telemetry Conference. Had one misspelling in it.
Wrote hundreds of technical documents that were company
published, but not available to the general public.
Does that count?


50 posted on 01/09/2024 1:23:29 PM PST by rellic (the "woods)
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To: aspasia

No kidding ...

Dad wasn’t a “teacher” at the time. (He much later taught some engineering courses at the MS/PhD level).

He also wasn’t technically a veteran, on account of still being active duty.

Regardless, I hit first grade already knowing how to read.

You can teach a four year old ANY language, provided you know it. That foreign language is “domestic” somewhere ... (Latin is hard??? Ineptias! Roman children learned it!)


51 posted on 01/09/2024 1:23:47 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: aspasia
To learn a skill, you need a leader.

I agree with that as a general principle, but not as an absolute.

52 posted on 01/09/2024 1:28:58 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: alexander_busek

Awesome!


53 posted on 01/09/2024 1:36:14 PM PST by shotgun
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Colleges of Education are a huge gatekeeping scam. It’s Marxist theory up and down.


54 posted on 01/09/2024 2:25:44 PM PST by Borges
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To: Bikkuri

Yes, many, if not most humanities courses nowadays have been dumbed down and woken up.


55 posted on 01/09/2024 3:12:38 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Grampa Dave

One of mine had a job, a job, not an internship, an actual job with benefits at NASA two years before he graduated. The job covered all of his school expenses plus some.


56 posted on 01/09/2024 4:27:46 PM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: Grampa Dave

One of mine had a job, a job, not an internship, an actual job with benefits at NASA two years before he graduated. The job covered all of his school expenses plus some.


57 posted on 01/09/2024 4:28:09 PM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: Deplorable American1776

“Transgender Underwater Basketweaving!”

back in the day, pre-wokeness, it was just “Underwater Basketweaving” ...


58 posted on 01/09/2024 5:38:40 PM PST by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
When I attended the public schools in Chicago (1963-1975) all my teachers had Masters in the subject matters they taught. In high school some of them had PhDs in their subject matter. My teachers were inspirational. I will never forget my 7th grade teacher telling us, “My job is to teach you critical thinking NOT to give you answers.” My Sophomore History teacher, who was Jewish, informing us that a big reason the South fought the Civil War was State Rights not Slavery in particular.
59 posted on 01/09/2024 5:50:18 PM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell)
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To: Magnum44
Why is it not the case in grade school?

Lol. I made this argument many years ago at my college - part of a student uprising against foreign TA's that spoke no English. If a kindergarten teacher needs a degree and has to pass a certification test, how can colleges let non-English speaking grad students teach college math and engineering courses?

60 posted on 01/09/2024 8:09:05 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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