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To: Pontiac
And we should care, why, if Russia wins?

Russia has more nuclear weapons pointed at America's heartland than any other nuclear state. (Why on God's green Earth would you cheer for the victory of someone with hostile intentions towards America?)

Russia is the self-avowed successor to the hated Soviet Union - whose demise Putin laments and which Putin wishes to resurrect.

Every dollar spent to help Ukraine defend itself against this unprecedented Russian aggression is doing more to degrade Russia's military might and lessen its threat potential than all the money previously-spent for arms and munitions which ultimately ended up being stored in warehouses for decades before finally being disposed of.

If Russia wins, it will have learned the lesson: "(War) crime does pay; the West is weak and easily cowed; we (Russia) can now move on to our next target."

I'm not even citing any of the obvious moral reasons. Thus, even only from a purely pragmatic standpoint, it is in America's interest that Russia fails.

Regards,

16 posted on 12/03/2023 10:44:32 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
Russia has more nuclear weapons pointed at America's heartland than any other nuclear state. (Why on God's green Earth would you cheer for the victory of someone with hostile intentions towards America?)

Before we backed Ukraine's joining NATO we had good relations to Russia.

Don't forget Russia sold us several tons of Plutonium to reduce their inventory of weapons.

There is no definitive reason other than Ukraine that we are an enemy of Russia and there is no reason other than selling weapons that we should go to war over Ukraine

28 posted on 12/03/2023 10:57:46 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: alexander_busek

Putin wanted to join NATO. WE TOLD HIM TO GO F HIMSELF.

Let that sink in.


42 posted on 12/03/2023 11:23:54 AM PST by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: alexander_busek
Russia has more nuclear weapons pointed at America's heartland than any other nuclear state. (Why on God's green Earth would you cheer for the victory of someone with hostile intentions towards America?)

For nearly 70 years America talked to Russia and our mutual problems were sorted out. Today you Neocons have traded talks with name calling and an active proxy war. Why wouldn't Russia point their missiles at America?

45 posted on 12/03/2023 11:25:59 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: alexander_busek; All

“Russia is the self-avowed successor to the hated Soviet Union - whose demise Putin laments and which Putin wishes to resurrect.

Every dollar spent to help Ukraine defend itself against this unprecedented Russian aggression is doing more to degrade Russia’s military might and lessen its threat potential than all the money previously-spent for arms and munitions ...”


The NeoCons say this and then argue Russia is paranoid to believe NATO is a hostile alliance...


51 posted on 12/03/2023 11:38:27 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: alexander_busek
Who blew up your Nordstream pipeline, was it the mean old Russians?

How about you grow a spine and stand up for yourselves and stop the incessant whining?

56 posted on 12/03/2023 11:42:00 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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