There’s countless other articles out there regarding the military’s opposition to Trump’s plan abruptly pull out. He put it in motion late in 2020 as a campaign talking point to bring the troops home by Christmas, which necessitated leaving everything behind. And I’m not excusing Biden’s horrible execution of the plan, but he primarily did it because of political pressure from Americans caused by Trump.
And there AREN’T countless articles about him actually PULLING OUT AND LEAVING EFFING WEAPONS AND DEAD SOLDIERS THERE.
Call it what you want. He had a plan, talking points or whatever. He never got a chance to execute any plan, orderly or not, destroying weapons or not - he was too busy being persecuted in office and having an election stolen from him.
JOE BIDEN ACTUALL LEFT that STUFF THERE and the military didn’t ‘protest’ like you feel they did with Trump’s plan, period. US weapons left in Afghanistan used against Israel isn’t something that can be foisted off on Trump. Biden did that.
There is no proof Trump prematurely made public military withdrawal plans. Anonymous sources after the fact are garbage.
Withdrawal during winter was strategically correct, during the summer (like SleepyJoe did) a disaster.
Saying it “can’t be done” quickly is BS. That is exactly what the Army does: move tons of military hardware thousands of miles overnight. That’s how wars are won, logistics is everything.
Trump calls Millie an @$%+ idiot for leaving equipment behind
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZLAhZez3IJ0?si=gKnBWzkT7BKG2Kz4
“which necessitated leaving everything behind.”
Bull****.
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but he primarily did it because of political pressure from Americans caused by Trump.
Just out of curiosity, this is off topic but how are you able to post replies on a banned account?
Totally mis-quoted the article. If you dislike Trump say so, without trying to mislead. I think the media does a good job of misleading and don’t need help.
Trump’s Analysis 2017
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-says-u-s-losing-afghan-war-tense-meeting-generals-n789006
Trump’s Plan February, 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51692546
February, 2021
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-peace-deal-us-deaths-afghanistan-year
August, 2021
https://www.westernjournal.com/blood-hands-1st-us-casualties-afghanistan-18-months-happen-thanks-biden/
As usual your posting is nonsense.
He wasn’t planning to leave everything behind.
“There’s countless other articles out there regarding the military’s opposition to Trump’s plan abruptly pull out.”
The job of the military is to follow the orders of the CIC. And it’s certainly NOT to question them publicly.
Trump screwed up by not immediately relieving them of command and replacing them with people who said “Yes, sir!”
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Give it up. You sound like Chris Christie.
Trump had no “plan to abruptly pull out.”
He wanted to pull out, but leave it in a reasonable state.
Biden definitely abruptly pulled out.
There’s countless other articles out there regarding the military’s opposition to Trump’s plan abruptly pull out. He put it in motion late in 2020 as a campaign talking point to bring the troops home by Christmas, which necessitated leaving everything behind.
The Biden White House released a 12-page document detailing the 2021 decision to withdraw from Afghanistan. The document indicates the order of January 15, 2021 was rescinded the next week. The document further indicates that when Trump left office there was no plan in place to effect a final withdrawal. The order which had been rescinded in January 2021, and the Trump plan, whose existence was denied, could not necessitate the Biden administration leaving everything behind in August 2021. As the Biden administration documented that there was no plan in existence when they assumed office, the plan executed in August 2021 was wholly the product of the Biden administration.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Withdrawal-from-Afghanistan.pdf
U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan
This document outlines the key decisions and challenges surrounding the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.
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Over his last 11 months in office, President Trump ordered a series of drawdowns of U.S. troops. By June 2020, President Trump reduced U.S. troops in Afghanistan to 8,600. In September 2020, he directed a further draw down to 4,500. A month later, President Trump tweeted, to the surprise of military advisors, that the remaining U.S. troops in Afghanistan should be “home by Christmas!” On September 28, 2021, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley testified that, on November 11 [2020], he had received an unclassified signed order directing the U.S. military to withdraw all forces from Afghanistan no later than January 15, 2021. One week later, that order was rescinded and replaced with one to draw down to 2,500 troops by the same date. During the transition from the Trump Administration to the Biden Administration, the outgoing Administration provided no plans for how to conduct the final withdrawal or to evacuate Americans and Afghan allies. Indeed, there were no such plans in place when President Biden came into office, even with the agreed upon full withdrawal just over three months away.[...]
Decision to Leave
President Biden had committed to ending the war in Afghanistan, but when he came into office he was confronted with difficult realities left to him by the Trump Administration. President Biden asked his military leaders about the options he faced, including the ramifications of further delaying the deadline of May 1. He pressed his intelligence professionals on whether it was feasible to keep 2,500 troops in Afghanistan and both defend them against a renewed Taliban onslaught and maintain a degree of stability in the country. The assessment from those intelligence professionals was that the United States would need to send more American troops into harm’s way to ensure our troops could defend themselves and to stop the stalemate from getting worse. As Secretary Austin testified on September 28, 2021, “If you stayed [in Afghanistan] at a force posture of 2,500, certainly you’d be in a fight with the Taliban, and you’d have to reinforce yourself.” Chairman Milley testified on September 29, 2021, “There’s a reasonable prospect we would have to increase forces past 2,500, given the Taliban very likely was going to start attacking us.” There were no signs that more time, more funds, or more Americans at risk in Afghanistan would have yielded a fundamentally different trajectory. Indeed, the speed with which the Taliban took over the country showed why maintaining 2,500 troops would not have sustained a stable and peaceful Afghanistan.
In early 2021, as these discussions were taking place, the intelligence and military consensus was that the ANDSF would be able to effectively fight to defend their country and their capital, Kabul. The ANDSF had significant advantages. Compared to the Taliban, they had vastly superior numbers and equipment: 300,000 troops compared to 80,000 Taliban fighters, an air force, and two decades of training and support. The Intelligence Community’s assessment in early 2021 was that Taliban advances would accelerate across large portions of Afghanistan after a complete U.S. military withdrawal and potentially lead to the Taliban’s capturing Kabul within a year or two. As late as May 2021, the assessment was still that Kabul would probably not come under serious pressure until late 2021 after U.S. troops departed.
Faced with these circumstances, President Biden undertook a deliberate, intensive, rigorous, and inclusive decision-making process. His thinking was informed by extensive consultations with his national security team, including military leaders, as well as outside experts, Members of Congress, allies and partners. The President asked for and received candid advice from a wide array of experts inside of and outside of government. As Secretary Austin testified on September 28, 2021, “I am very much satisfied that we had a thorough policy review, and I believe that all of the parties had an opportunity to provide input. And that input was received.” Chairman Milley also testified on September 28, 2021, that the commanders on the ground “were listened to” and had an opportunity to share their advice.
The Administration engaged in intensive consultation at senior levels with allies, and the President factored in their feedback and their differences of opinion. Secretary of State Blinken testified on September 13, 2021, “I heard a lot of gratitude from allies and partners about the work that our folks did in making sure that we could deliver on that commitment [to consult] to them.” NATO Secretary-General Stoltenberg also rejected the characterization the President did not consult allies in a September 10, 2021, interview: “You see different voices in Europe, and some are talking about the lack of consultation, but I was present in those meetings. Of course, the United States consulted with European allies, but at the end of the day, every nation has to make their own decision on deploying forces.”
Ultimately, President Biden refused to send another generation of Americans to fight a war that should have ended for the United States long ago.
Planning for the Withdrawal
While recognizing the strategic necessity of withdrawing U.S. forces from Afghanistan, President Biden and his team were well aware of the challenges posed by withdrawing from a warzone after twenty years—especially under the circumstances that they inherited. The departing Trump Administration had left the Biden Administration with a date for withdrawal, but no plan for executing it.
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Whether there was no Trump final withdrawal plan, as the Biden administration asserted, or there was a Trump plan which was ignored and whose existence was denied, such plan could not have necessitated any Biden administration action in August 2021.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-costa-book-trump-afghanistan-memo/index.html
New Woodward/Costa book: Trump secret memo ordering withdrawal from Afghanistan blindsided national security teamBy Jamie Gangel, Jeremy Herb and Elizabeth Stuart, CNN
Updated 2:55 PM EDT, Tue September 14, 2021Washington
CNNJust eight days after the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump was so determined to end the war in Afghanistan during his presidency that he secretly signed a memo to withdraw all troops by January 15, 2021, according to a new book, “Peril,” from journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.
The November 11 memo, according to the authors, had been secretly drafted by two Trump loyalists and never went through the normal process for a military directive – the secretary of defense, national security adviser and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs had all never seen it.
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Milley studied the memo and announced he was heading to the White House to confront Trump.
“This is really [expletive deleted] up and I’m going to see the President. I’m heading over. You guys can come or not,” Milley told Miller and Patel, who joined him on the trip across the Potomac, according to the book.
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“Mr. President, you’ve got to have a meeting with the principals,” [national security adviser Robert] O’Brien told Trump, according to the book, which Trump agreed to do and the directive was withdrawn.
Eventually, Milley, Miller and Patel left the White House. They never saw the President that day, but after the January 6 assault on the Capitol, Woodward and Costa write that Milley “felt no absolute certainty that the military could control or trust Trump.”
It was President Trump who withdrew the Memorandum containing the order. It appears that did not take a week. It is not stated why General Milley thought that the military should control the President.