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One family pocketed $7.6 million by taking cans and bottles from Arizona and recycling them in California. That's fraud, prosecutors say.
Yahoo ^ | July 27, 2023 | Charles R. Davis

Posted on 07/27/2023 10:40:15 AM PDT by lowbridge

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To: ridesthemiles
WE HAVE A LANDFILL PROBLEM FROM DISPOSABLE DIAPERS.

Bull Hocky.

81 posted on 07/27/2023 2:30:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: lowbridge

Would seem that unless CA had a specific law against that they don’t have a leg to stand on. They would have to prove that the family had the intent to fraud, not just an intent to recycle for the environment. Additionally, it really just shows that the “tax” on cans when bought is the more important thing rather than saving the environment.


82 posted on 07/27/2023 2:34:12 PM PDT by falcon99 ( )
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To: grobdriver

Too bad they are not as concerned about illegally imported illegal alien invaders.


83 posted on 07/27/2023 2:43:28 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Fido969

Thank you. I wasn’t thinking of it that way.


84 posted on 07/27/2023 2:55:47 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Jonty30

Not possible, two regulation sized garbage cans full of collapsed aluminum cans, will get you about $12 from recyclers. You need semi loads to make any money.


85 posted on 07/27/2023 3:08:08 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: lowbridge

Who cares? They recycled bottles and cans period. That’s the goal right?


86 posted on 07/27/2023 3:17:02 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“If they’ve already been redeemed within California, why are they not in the possession of the state of CA?”

My guess would be that the State does not, itself, recycle the bottles, but sells them in bulk to someone who promises to do so. That may have been part of the scam.


87 posted on 07/27/2023 3:41:11 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: PLMerite

Good grief, can anyone tell me where I can get money for empty cans and bottles? I’m pretty sure WV doesn’t have such a place. I throw out a huge bag of empty bottles every week. No, not liquor bottles. Water & fruit juice.


88 posted on 07/27/2023 3:58:14 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: WVNan

Need liquor bottles to throw away? Can contribute.


89 posted on 07/27/2023 4:05:02 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: Glad2bnuts

He may not have been using consumer available bags.

The bag was huge, that’s all I can say. It looked twice as tall as the man who was collecting it.


90 posted on 07/27/2023 4:58:18 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Fido969

Don’t forget also that the CRV on taxable items is taxable, so the state makes money on that.


91 posted on 07/27/2023 5:13:09 PM PDT by clockwise
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To: Jonty30

In Lynchburg, Virginia there was a man named Johnny that came back from the war in Korea not quite right in the head. Couldn’t hold down a job, wife kicked him out so he lived wherever he could. Usually in an abandoned house or something.
Back in the day Johnny would pick up returnable bottles and turn them in at the store for eating money and whatnot. He would collect cans from bars and save that money for long term use. He had two bars that fed him every night for mopping up for them.
Once a week someone with a truck would take Johnny and his cans to the recycler and he would put that money in the bank. Johnny saved enough to put both of his kids through the Community College.

Unfortunately when Johnny died his kids showed up and ripped through the old house he was living in looking for more money. Not finding any they went home, leaving his body unclaimed.
The businesses that knew johnny put out collection jars and we all gave the old fella a grand send off. He had a nice casket and the preacher gave a fine service and the fella was laid to rest with a beautiful headstone.


92 posted on 07/27/2023 5:25:54 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Gated communities....for those days you miss prison )
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To: oldvirginian

That is very sad for him. I cannot imagine having children so ungrateful for the sacrifices of the parents.


93 posted on 07/27/2023 5:27:55 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Right Brother; Pete Dovgan; Fido969

Tax and tax refund


94 posted on 07/27/2023 5:29:04 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Jonty30

Yep, their Dad spent a lifetime eating bologna sandwiches and pork and beans and picking up cans and bottles so he could send them to college.
Just goes to show what you can do a little at a time.


95 posted on 07/27/2023 5:49:47 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Gated communities....for those days you miss prison )
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To: lowbridge

The article doesn’t specify a law that was violated. Is this something made up on the fly by the courts?


96 posted on 07/27/2023 5:53:44 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Fuzz

LOL, sorry I don’t have any liquor bottles. Never could stand the stuff.


97 posted on 07/28/2023 1:37:13 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Larry Lucido

The same clip of newman and kramer came to mind, funny


98 posted on 07/28/2023 3:50:56 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: BenLurkin

Exactly. If the fund was to get cans and bottles recycled and out of a landfill, CA is defeating its purpose.


99 posted on 07/28/2023 3:55:57 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: gitmo

Reportedly, there is a california law which forbids people from recycling materials, cans, bottles, that were brought in from outside the state.

If one buys a can of soda in California from any California merchant, it may be redeemed. But if one buys a can of soda in the state of Arizona, for example, but attempts to redeem the can in California, that’s against the law. That’s my understanding of their law.

How they enforce it, I don’t know. I imagine most people get away with it. But this was too big of an operation to go unnoticed.


100 posted on 07/28/2023 11:11:38 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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