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Thousands of Americans Try To Take Advantage of Biden's Solar Subsidies. They Can't Connect to a Power Grid.
Washington Free Beacon ^ | 5/6/23 | Colin Anderson

Posted on 05/07/2023 6:19:43 AM PDT by CFW

Shortly after President Joe Biden offered tax credits to anyone buying solar panels, a Colorado homeowner named Stacie took out loans to install $30,000 worth of panels on her roof. Nearly six months later, however, those panels sat unused, generating no power.

The problem seemed to have a simple fix: Stacie's energy provider merely needed to hook the panels up to its power grid—but there's no room.

Increased demand driven by Biden's green subsidies, combined with inadequate power grid capacity, has left thousands of green energy projects like Stacie's without power, rendering them useless. "When you put out $30,000, you sign loans, and don't have a working product, it's frustrating," Stacie told a local reporter. "There is no communication."

Stacie's predicament reflects a significant snag in Biden's green energy revolution. While the hundreds of billions of dollars in green energy spending allocated through the Inflation Reduction Act led to a flood of new wind and solar projects, America's antiquated power grid is not ready to accommodate them. Nearly 1,300 gigawatts worth of green energy projects, for example, are waiting to be connected to power, according to a recent Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory report. The country's entire electric grid has an installed power capacity of just 1,250 gigawatts.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenvoters; electricity; ira; megawaste; solarpower
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To: D_Idaho

The only way it might pay in the end is if you do it yourself.

I built the 14kw battery banks for about $3000 each. If you buy that as a packaged box its more like $10k.

If you or a family member doesn’t have the know how, you will overpay and never recoup.


61 posted on 05/07/2023 9:30:49 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: George from New England

You can disconnect your system from the grid at any time, by opening the main incoming breaker. They can’t bypass that.


62 posted on 05/07/2023 9:34:41 AM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: Sacajaweau
what was the actual start up cost. i’m guessing that you make 6 figures....unlike most of us.

I've only been paying the $90 per month. And once the metering does it's stuff, that bill will replace my electric bill (Which at times was hitting nearly $400 per month).

The only way that I'd get to six figures is if I worked a ton of overtime, wrecking my back in the process...
63 posted on 05/07/2023 9:50:26 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: meyer

“You can disconnect your system from the grid at any time, by opening the main incoming breaker. They can’t bypass that.”

They only take your battery energy if they have an internet lock on your equipment. Don’t forget that. And just what if the code THEY HAVE EMBEDED in your inverter, STOPS you from blocking this action. With the breaker open, there maybe no path for them to take your energy but that doesn’t prevent malicious code from crippling you in your own equipment.

You own nothing and you will be happy.


64 posted on 05/07/2023 9:52:24 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: EVO X

> I used to go on fly in fishing trips to central Ontario Canada.

I used to go up to a friend’s cabin on the French River in Ontario. We had a large automobile battery to run a car stereo and a small portable generator to keep it charged.

The cabin had a Franklin wood-stove and Coleman propane heater, with propane for lights, stove and fridge.

Boats were gasoline powered, obviously.

There was a fishing lodge a few miles down-river. It had three diesel generators running 24-7 to keep the fridges/ freezers and lodges powered. At night we could hear them, faintly but clearly. I recall somebody mentioned that it cost $10,000 per month to keep them running, as the diesel had to come 20 miles by barge from across the lake. This was also at least 20 some odd years ago and I’m sure it costs a lot more today. Costly yes but this was the cost of doing business. Solar ? Totally impracticable. Not to mention that the lodge closed in September and didn’t open till June.


65 posted on 05/07/2023 10:24:19 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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To: CFW

Another libtard ripoff don’t fall for it


66 posted on 05/07/2023 10:28:50 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: George from New England

I had solar water heaters in Tampa when I lived down there.

At Christmas I flew back to Indy to visit family. When I came back to Tampa that there had been a hard freeze while I was gone and water had been rolling off the roof the entire time.

Had one hell of a water bill, not to mention the solar panels I had to replace required insurance help.


67 posted on 05/07/2023 10:57:02 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Most people do not know that when you install the battery backup system, many grids have the right to take your power from the batteries into the grid to offset shortages in other areas

You have to be connected to the grid for that to happen!😁 I’m not.


68 posted on 05/07/2023 11:22:09 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Brian Griffin

Phone batteries (Li-ion) generally last around 300-500 charge-discharge cycles before seeing a marked deterioration in capacity. In actual usage my phone batteries tend to last not quite two years.


69 posted on 05/07/2023 11:28:41 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: George from New England
As far as I can tell, nobody is doing this right now.

Tesla is doing this right now. Tesla solar roofs store energy in their wall solar battery packs, and Tesla vehicles can be charged up directly from the wall packs, night or day. Recent news articles about it.

70 posted on 05/07/2023 12:23:44 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: ADemocratNoMore

One of the best fishing camps I went to in central Ontario could handle a couple of dozen of people. The camp operator had a big generator that ran continuously. It was basically for lighting and recharging fish locators. Running any fishing camp of any size totally on solar power is a non starter...


71 posted on 05/07/2023 3:01:53 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: CFW

She should’ve installed an off grid system.🤨


72 posted on 05/07/2023 4:55:02 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: DAC21

You can get a bank of five server rack batteries for less then $9000 .


73 posted on 05/07/2023 5:09:50 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: CFW

When you put out $30,000, you sign loans, how stupid you are


74 posted on 05/08/2023 1:50:08 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: George from New England

... Normally, people with electric cars charge them at night, so they can drive them in the morning. Draining the car all night isn’t very useful..

With your solution, wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy the batteries without the car? Plus they wouldn’t take up nearly as much garage space!


75 posted on 05/08/2023 9:14:31 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Brian Griffin
Cars could be charged up at 8am to 5pm work hours from panels on an commercial building or parking lot roof and the excess battery charge of the car could be used to power a house at night.

And who is gonna pay for that? Are you supposed to spend $20M on panels on your house, AND $10M for panels at your work? Do you get to take them with you when you quit or get fired?

Pulling numbers from various websites: The average US home uses about 30 kWh a day. Solar panels in mid-TX generate 0.5 to 0.8 kWh a day, per m2. Given Tesla batt packs are 60-80 kWh, if you pull 20 of that for the house and 10-20 to drive to/from work (tesla gets 3-4 mi per kwh, though some Ford EVs are in the 1-2mi range), you're looking at 100 to 200 m2 of panels to break even per workday. Not including power needs over weekends. Parking spots are about 30m2, so each car charging is gonna need probably about five parking spots of panels for this system. Not really feasible, physically or financially.
76 posted on 05/08/2023 10:07:14 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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