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Army aviators, ready to leave the military, are told they owe 3 more years instead
https://www.nbcnews.com ^ | April 27, 2023 | Melissa Chan

Posted on 04/29/2023 9:45:12 AM PDT by Enterprise

Hundreds of Army aviation officers who were set to leave the military are being held to another three years of service after they say the branch quietly reinterpreted part of their contract amid retention and recruitment issues.

The shift has sparked an uproar among the more than 600 affected active-duty commissioned officers, including some who say their plans to start families, launch businesses and begin their civilian lives have been suddenly derailed.

“We are now completely in limbo,” said a captain who had scheduled his wedding around thinking he would be leaving the military this spring.

That captain and three other active-duty aviation officers who spoke to NBC News spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.

As part of a program known as BRADSO, cadets commissioning from the U.S. Military Academy or Army Cadet Command from 2008 and 2020 were able to request a branch of their choice, including aviation, by agreeing to serve an additional three years on active duty.

For years, the Army allowed some aviation officers to serve those three years concurrently, and not consecutively, along with their roughly contracted seven or eight years of service.

In a phone call with reporters Thursday, Army officials admitted "errors" in the system, which they noticed a few months ago, led to the discrepancy.

"We are fixing those errors, and we are in communication with the unit leadership and impacted officers," said Lt. Gen. Douglas Stitt, deputy chief of staff of G-1, which is in charge of policy and personnel.

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You're in the Army now,
You're not behind a plow;
You'll never get rich,
You son of a bitch,
You're in the Army now.

A couple of things here. Army pilots have been grounded after two incidents of fatalities and injuries of Apache helicopters.

Officers were surprised that their contracts have been reinterpreted and they are obligated for more service time left than they thought they had.

Who knew that you couldn't have babies if you were in the service?

And most importantly - who in his/her right mind wants to be cannon fodder in Biden's Army?

1 posted on 04/29/2023 9:45:12 AM PDT by Enterprise
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We don’t have cannon fodder so quit mocking our active duty and veterans.


2 posted on 04/29/2023 9:49:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Enterprise

They are making them stay because they plan on using them for their idiotic foolish neocon nonsense wars.

This should not be legal. They probably are getting recruits not up to the task.


3 posted on 04/29/2023 9:53:38 AM PDT by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: ansel12

I am a veteran and I’m not mocking myself. I have had relatives serve in time of war, and I’m not mocking them either.


4 posted on 04/29/2023 9:54:27 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: dforest
"They probably are getting recruits not up to the task."

Military recruitment goals are severely short of requirements, and this could have some bearing on the current policy of suddenly finding that officers owe more time.

5 posted on 04/29/2023 9:56:21 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

If this has to be done to staff a peacetime Army, WTH is going to happen when we have a real conflict and have to deploy a wartime army?


6 posted on 04/29/2023 9:57:04 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Enterprise

Sorry, leadership is insane and cares more about transvestites than you.


7 posted on 04/29/2023 9:58:25 AM PDT by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Enterprise

Then quit labeling us cannon fodder, it mocks us and insults our nation.
We have fought that see their people as nothing cannon fodder.

To get back to the topic, this seems weird “For years, the Army allowed some aviation officers to serve those three years concurrently, and not consecutively, along with their roughly contracted seven or eight years of service.”

They had a certain number of years to serve and the Aviation request was supposed to be in addition to it, but they have been sliding?


8 posted on 04/29/2023 9:58:26 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Enterprise

The maternity flight suits aren’t quite ready, so the guys will have to put in a few more years ...


9 posted on 04/29/2023 9:58:30 AM PDT by x
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To: dforest

The f’d up and trusted the Army leadership.


10 posted on 04/29/2023 9:59:08 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: ansel12

> Then quit labeling us cannon fodder, it mocks us and insults our nation.

Lighten up Francis.


11 posted on 04/29/2023 10:00:20 AM PDT by glorgau
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I’d say the 13 dead at the Kabul airport were cannon fodder. This is not an insult to those soldiers, it is an insult to their leadership who put them in a place to serve no function but to die for Democrat schemes.


12 posted on 04/29/2023 10:00:30 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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This doesn’t suprise me - from USNA the aviation committment came from flight school post USNA and not at the service selection that occurred the last year of USNA. Same thing was true of the additional Nuc school committment for the officers that attended that.

The Army was basically allowing the investment to slide and are now holding them to the same standard. The fact that they didn’t enforce it to begin with is the real issue here.


13 posted on 04/29/2023 10:02:21 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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It may be just me, but, as I understand the way this article is written-their initial commitment to the Army out of USMA is 7 or 8 years. Then they were given the option to choose their branch, but it would cost an additional 3 years, for a total of 10 or 11 years. Which, BTW, is the AF current commitment for aviation.


14 posted on 04/29/2023 10:02:35 AM PDT by GMThrust
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After 911 the military put a stop-loss on military intel MOS’s, had an airman (female) that wanted to re-enlist but she had a bar to re-enlistment. So she couldn’t get out nor could she reup, a real catch 22.


15 posted on 04/29/2023 10:02:52 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: Enterprise
Aviation branch really puts the screws to people. I commanded an MP company at Camp Page Korea which was essentially an aviation base. A friend of mine was a West Pointer who had been trained and certified on older generation choppers (UH-1 and AH-1). As he was coming to Korea, the last of the Cobras were being packed up having been replaced by AH-64s. This was during the post-coldwar "peace dividend" and forces were shrinking and bases being closed. His branch manager would not approve the transition course for him to move to train on Apaches or Blackhawks, but would not release him from the service obligations he had incurred via West Point and flight school.

He was in a ridiculous Catch-22, probably the biggest screw-over I was aware of during my time in the Army.

16 posted on 04/29/2023 10:04:38 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: RightOnTheBorder

The victims of that bombing weren’t cannon fodder, look to the Iran-Iraq war for example.

We just fought 20 years of wars for crying out loud, we did not use our men as cannon fodder with indifference to them as we sent them into massed artillery barrages and massed machine guns, and used them to walk through minefields.


17 posted on 04/29/2023 10:06:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Enterprise

Austin is trying to cover Biden’s Ass until he is re-elected by vote fraud.


18 posted on 04/29/2023 10:08:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (“Who is John Galt?”)
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To: dforest

Recruitment is waaaay off


19 posted on 04/29/2023 10:09:46 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: GMThrust

“”It may be just me, but, as I understand the way this article is written-their initial commitment to the Army out of USMA is 7 or 8 years. Then they were given the option to choose their branch, but it would cost an additional 3 years, for a total of 10 or 11 years. Which, BTW, is the AF current commitment for aviation.””

That is the way I read it, I wonder how long this has been sliding?


20 posted on 04/29/2023 10:10:12 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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