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If That Was the Vegas Shooter's Motive, What Were Local Police/FBI Doing All This Time?
townhall.com ^ | 3/31/2023 1605 hrs edt | Matt Vespa

Posted on 04/01/2023 8:39:48 AM PDT by rktman

In the aftermath, the Trump administration signed off on a bump-stock ban that went into effect in 2018. It’s been challenged in the courts. We never got a solid motive for Paddock’s rampage, only a lot of conjecture. Every avenue regarding this investigation wound up being a dead end. For years, we knew nothing about Paddock’s motivations for committing mass murder until now, but skepticism abounds as the new theory is that the casinos were mistreating him. After nearly a decade of investigating, Paddock committed the worst mass shooting by a single person in US history because he felt disrespected at the gambling tables. For lack of a better term, this is quite anti-climactic. Authorities still maintain their official position that no motive could be determined to satisfy why Paddock committed this crime. Yet, if this is one step closer to the truth, what were the FBI and local law enforcement doing all this time? This was the big reveal: casino mistreatment

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Philosophy; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: armssmuggling; banglist; casino; casinos; gambleanon; lasvegas; mandalaybay; massshooting; nevada; paddock; philippines; weaponssmuggling
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To: rktman
This has all the hallmarks of getting ahead of the story. The deep state must have intelligence that somebody is about to leak something damaging about the FBI regarding this case, but are not at all sure they're going to be able to plug all the leaks.

So..."Killer didn't like the way a cocktail waitress served him a drink, don't believe any other reasons for motivation that may come out in the next few days."

21 posted on 04/01/2023 9:19:41 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: rktman

Here is what I found from news sources. HOWEVER, there has been quite a few years for the FBI to come up with a “reason” which many doubt.

https://www.4029tv.com/article/las-vegas-mass-shooter-motive-fbi-documents/43470459

“The high-roller gambler who opened fire on concertgoers on the Las Vegas Strip had lost tens of thousands of dollars while gambling weeks before the mass shooting and was upset about how the casinos had treated him, according to FBI documents made public this week.”


22 posted on 04/01/2023 9:25:01 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: rktman

It was supposed to be cover for the assassination of the Saudi prince. But he was rescued.


23 posted on 04/01/2023 9:27:14 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: dinodino

Correct.

If he had a hate for the casino he would have destroyed the casino, not people having a festival in the courtyard.

A gas explosion, a major fire bombing or something of that nature.


24 posted on 04/01/2023 9:29:38 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: Freest Republican
It is prob not the motive but why not just go with he lost his butt in the casinos and this is the result? It a lot more believable.

That doesn't even suss out.   All that weaponry was worth a fortune.   If he was a gambler who lost his butt he would have sold his armory for a new stake.

25 posted on 04/01/2023 9:36:53 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: dinodino
I don't either. The lack of information about this when it happened was suspicious imo. Hell, any shooting that happens is almost always immediately followed by information about the shooter including cell phone data, social media, interviews etc. I did see someone interviewing his brother, who came off like a weird left-wing nut (to me). This guy's wife/GF was Arabic iirc.

Anyway, I agree with you; I'm not buying this at all.

26 posted on 04/01/2023 9:40:20 AM PDT by LibertyWoman (America, the Handwriting is on the Wall. )
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To: rktman
What Were Local Police/FBI Doing All This Time?

Trying to come up with a plausible story.

They failed.

27 posted on 04/01/2023 9:43:13 AM PDT by null and void (Precedent now set. Biden and Obama are fair game now.)
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To: Revolutionary

This is the first reasonable explanation I have heard.


28 posted on 04/01/2023 9:51:48 AM PDT by DrGunsforHands
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To: rktman
"Paddock, 64, was a video poker player who relied on gambling as his main source of income. "

I had no idea that a person could make a living playing video poker or any of the other video machines in a casino. Do the casinos know this?

It's so relatively easy to program these machines so as to guarantee that the casino wins in the long run that I am surprised that the casinos don't do something about this.

29 posted on 04/01/2023 9:53:44 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: rktman

Color me unconvinced. You don’t bring 14 AR-15’s and 8 AR-10’s up the service elevator over a period of a whole week for that. The guy was a known gambler, yes, but he was also a known (illegal) weapons dealer. Practically everything we know about the thing has already been vetted by multiple government agencies. Not much real grist for the investigative mill is left.


30 posted on 04/01/2023 10:03:15 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dinodino

Asset gone rogue or activated?


31 posted on 04/01/2023 10:04:21 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: LibertyWoman

[This guy’s wife/GF was Arabic iirc.]

Filipina.

Since he was hanging out with Filipinas, there should have been enough selfies/pics of him to make a stop action movie. Instead they only have one single picture.


32 posted on 04/01/2023 10:20:16 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

It wasn’t an FBI op, but they were in on the coverup, and they own Lombardi. John Cullen has done the heavy lifting here.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=s97XK7vgoW0&feature=share


33 posted on 04/01/2023 10:24:25 AM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: rktman

Somehow it seems perfectly credible that local cops and the FB of Panty Sniffers would recognize the potential for a mass shooting, and step back to allow it to happen, for the sake of appeasing their liberal betters’ gun confiscation scam. Anyone who thinks red flag laws are meant to deter shootings is not paying attention.


34 posted on 04/01/2023 10:26:53 AM PDT by DPMD (ua)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Right. If not then why shut down the investigation and reports to the public about something that killed and injured so many people?

If he was accurate a man I heard interviewed said the shootings from above went on long after the shooter was dead.
How could that be?

And were the stories true that more shots were fired at the ground level during the panic?

We haven’t been informed so we’re supposed to move on.


35 posted on 04/01/2023 10:27:28 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: dinodino

Proof of that idea: the biggest mass shooting in USA was immediately excised from all public discussion. And never cited by gun grabbers as an example.


36 posted on 04/01/2023 10:35:53 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: rktman

If that’s all it was, why has the FBI never allowed the ATF to examine the weapons he used?

To this point, we have nothing other than the FBI’s word that he sued bump-fire stocks.


37 posted on 04/01/2023 10:39:43 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“”This was absolutely without a doubt an FBI operation, the FBI has become the most EVIL of all the alphabet agencies””

Bump that...


38 posted on 04/01/2023 11:26:48 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: William Tell
Bill, there are places in Vegas where Video Poker returns over 100%. Hell yes the casinos know about this, they are actually returning ROI above what they are legally required to provide as a loss-leader, an incentive to get you into their casinos.

You have to know how to play them and you have to know when to stop ahead, after a streak (like 8 hits in 20 and you have cleared 3-1).

39 posted on 04/01/2023 11:28:38 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: higgmeister; Billthedrill
That doesn't even suss out. All that weaponry was worth a fortune. If he was a gambler who lost his butt he would have sold his armory for a new stake. - higgmeister

You don’t bring 14 AR-15’s and 8 AR-10’s up the service elevator over a period of a whole week for that. The guy was a known gambler, yes, but he was also a known (illegal) weapons dealer. - Billthedrill

Otherwise peaceful country music concert, reports of shooter on the floor, Saudi prince hustled out, conflicted communications among law enforcement, supposed shooter found dead...
Vegas is a long way from Chicago for so much cattle pen aroma.

40 posted on 04/01/2023 11:28:41 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Trump isn’t a cult leader; he’s a deprogrammer. - Frank Miele)
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