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Virginia boy who shot teacher Abigail Zwerner told another he wanted to set her on fire (pic of the boy released)
NY Post (via MSN) ^ | 01/21/23 | Matthew Sedacca

Posted on 01/22/2023 7:14:38 AM PST by Drew68

A 6-year-old who shot his teacher allegedly told another educator he wanted to light her on fire and watch her die, according to a report.

Last month, the troubled boy nearly made good on his apparent murderous impulses, shooting first grader teacher Abigail Zwerner at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News., Va., officials have said. Zwerner survived.

Zwerner and other Richneck teachers said they had shared their fears about the child’s grave behavior with administrators, only to have their concerns downplayed or ignored, The Washington Post reported.

Zwerner had asked for support with the boy, and expressed concerns about his behavior, teachers wrote in online messages to Newport News Superintendent George Parker III.

Abigail Zwerner was reportedly finally released from the hospital this week. “She had asked for help,” one school staff member wrote in the chat.

“Several times,” another added.

The child, who was known to throw furniture and other objects in the classroom, once wrote a note to a teacher in which he told her hated her, wanted to set her on fire to kill her, the teachers union told The Washington Post. When she brought the disturbing letter to school administrators, they told her to drop it, according to the teacher.

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To: dfwgator
Hey there, Johnny Boy, I hope you fry!

THIS!!!

121 posted on 01/22/2023 9:39:36 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Drew68

“Zwerner and other Richneck teachers said they had shared their fears about the child’s grave behavior with administrators, only to have their concerns downplayed or ignored,”


You have to understand the rules that schools are forced to work under. I’m willing to bet the little monster had an I.E.P.—an individualized education program and likely because of his behavior problems. Federal law protects him from most discipline actions connected to his ‘disability’.

It gets worse. The district is required to educate him in as free a manner as possible, meaning he has to be in a regular classroom as much as possible, meaning that in the future he will likely be sitting next to normal kids who along with their teachers have to learn to put up with his outbursts.

The school district will be responsible for his ‘education’ until the age of 21 and must provide what he needs for 12 months out of the year. If he is such a danger that he must be confined in a boarding school 24/7, the district must provide it, no matter the costs. If it requires firing three teachers to do it, it must be done. This is why administrators, who take lessons in school law, are so reluctant to respond to teachers’ complaints—anything they do will cost even more money to be spent on him.

And as some icing on the top, having an I.E.P. means he is dibbled and eligible for SSI, meaning his parents will get a check from Social Security until he turns 18.

Since the boy is six, there are likely no legal consequences to him for what he did. He will be returning to school, what school or what kind of school, we’ll never be allowed to know. And unless there’s a ‘grapevine’ his teachers won’t be allowed to know either.


122 posted on 01/22/2023 9:39:37 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Abbeville Conservative
"I never understood that when this kind of evil is known some adults close to the situation don’t have the gutts to step forward and kill off these evil people."


123 posted on 01/22/2023 9:39:42 AM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: Drew68

So sad his mom is now trying to cash in. They knew he had a gun yet could not find it. Who brought the gun into class?

Didn’ do nuffin


124 posted on 01/22/2023 9:40:07 AM PST by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence)
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To: dragonblustar
Amen, brother.

I must admit, at times it gets very depressing seeing the progress satan is making in America.

My wife (literally "the girl next door") lost a battle to cancer at 28 when my daughters were 4 and 1 - and knowing the future that awaits them is quite depressing in itself.

125 posted on 01/22/2023 9:42:54 AM PST by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: hanamizu

You have eloquently made the case for abolishing government schools and ending compulsory education.


126 posted on 01/22/2023 9:46:22 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Drew68

Thanks


127 posted on 01/22/2023 9:51:19 AM PST by dforest (Joy Behar is a big mouth cow.)
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To: mewzilla

Tattoos, new iPhones, gold jewelry, diamond grills, latest models of Mercedes or BMWs, buying 2 $7/pack Newports a day, showing up at the food pantries... and their kids are on the free lunch programs because despite all of the SNAP cards, Section 8 housing and medicaid, there is no food in the house...

Add in a CA program that gives pregnant minority women $1000/mo.


128 posted on 01/22/2023 9:57:38 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Socon-Econ

Old? No, FRiend, until ... well, you get it. There is NO fixing what’s wrong with that boy.


129 posted on 01/22/2023 10:03:04 AM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Steely Tom

I never read the novel, if it’s an inappropriate thing to say on FR, please pm me the quote from the book.


130 posted on 01/22/2023 10:06:55 AM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Drew68

This kid is the product of his family life and his parents or guardians. What he did and said is what he is learning from his parents siblings and others in the house


131 posted on 01/22/2023 10:07:20 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Drew68

The child is 6 years of age. He is not competent nor is any other 6 year old and skin color has nothing to do with it.

Based on the described behavior there is a very good chance that he was a drug baby. Crack cocaine, methamphetamine, alcohol, heroin/fentanyl, and even some prescribed psychotropic drugs can severely impact brain and emotional development of a fetus. Permanent damage is almost guaranteed and its the kind of damage that will impact them for their entire life. Their brain does not develop to include critical parts of the brain that differentiate us from animals.

Many of these children are incapable of controlling their emotions or empathy for another person. They are born as sociopaths or psychopaths and their brain development is not the same as most people. Babies and children who are born like this often have horrible environments at home that further contribute to these issues.

The criminal justice system is full of adults who were brain damaged by their mothers and their home life (or lack thereof) and environment (or culture) often compounds the problems.

It should concern everyone that the “school” or “authorities” responded to the warning signs in this child by telling others who were concerned to ignore it. This described behavior should never be ignored. I have a lot of familiarity with this problem - professional and personal.

It has nothing to do with race. Every embryo, regardless of race, is full of potential. With very few exceptions that potential will be instilled by the mother during pregnancy and the adults who care (or don’t care) for the child.

It’s that simple. I will never believe that a baby is born as a monster. Maybe I am wrong, but all the ones I know of were created by at least one adult, the mother, and often by many adults - family, school, and community. Behavior like this in any child (as described) should result in a supreme effort to treat them and it starts by removing them from an environment that is clearly failing. Even then, there are still no guarantees.

The brain is an incredibly complex organ and it remains one of the least understood things on our planet. I personally believe what I wrote above has much more to do with stories like this versus what some rich leftist journalist, professor, politician, race hustling poverty pimp, woke doctor, or kneejerk racist says about it.

This little guy is brain damaged and it sounds like a lot of adults failed him.


132 posted on 01/22/2023 10:07:49 AM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: hanamizu

Thank you for your post and sharing facts about our education system. I wrote a longer post above about my thoughts, but I did not know how the current education system is treating this stuff (my first-hand knowledge is a bit dated).

There were obviously many failures with this child. I am certain child protective services were notified by the school about this behavior (legally required) and while they are often an easy target (just like teachers or schools) few people understand how hard it is for them to fight the system to try and give a child like this the best chance at success (if its possible).


133 posted on 01/22/2023 10:17:23 AM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: NorthMountain

Most people don’t realize the role the federal government plays in what should be truly local school matters. The rules I described are part of Federal rules, likely outlining the ‘rights’ of the handicapped to receive an education. Most think of handicapped as being blind, deaf, or physically disabled, but crazy is now part of being handicapped as well.

Most Americans managed to receive decent educations from public schools before these rules/laws were put in place. Getting rid of these rules is likely politically impossible—”Republicans want to deny education to the handicapped!!!”

More and more people are pulling their kids out of public schools, but they still have to pay taxes for them. Since providing education is a part of virtually all state constitutions, the public schools aren’t ever going away.

I frankly don’t know the solution.


134 posted on 01/22/2023 10:17:34 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Drew68
The corrupt hateful press wanted the child to be white and the teacher to be black. Now they're sad. If the child had been white this story would be celebrated for the next 10 years - maybe the next 50 years.

As is?

The kid will be 'mentally ill' a problem caused by White Supremacy'... The corrupt press knows who butters their bread and feeds them 'the good stuff' via their 'news packets.

135 posted on 01/22/2023 10:18:07 AM PST by GOPJ ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ Gumballs: Immigrants by the numbers.)
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To: Drew68

Back when I was in the 5th grade, not far from where I was sitting, a large cow-like female “classmate” tried to stab an elderly woman teacher with a pencil. The attacker was escorted out of the room by a couple of male teachers, and she was never seen again.

I don’t remember what let up to the attack, or why other teachers were present. All I recall is looking up and seeing this creature make her attack. She was considerable larger that the average 5th grader, probably having held back a grade or two.

No doubt this “student” ended up in a reform school, which is were the kid in this story should have been, but “racist” reform schools are a thing of the distant past, and “mainstreaming” and “social promotion” are the norm now.

These liberal policies only hurt the kids they are supposed to help, and add to the relentless corrosion of our society.

Thank goodness the teacher in the story survived.


136 posted on 01/22/2023 10:28:58 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: suthener

Wow. That’s some bad parenting for sure.

Back in the day the men of the town would have a talk (or worse) with those kids’ families.


137 posted on 01/22/2023 10:29:42 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Drew68

Born and bred for violence...


138 posted on 01/22/2023 10:29:52 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperatly need him)
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To: newfreep

“There is no race problem...just a problem race”

Unfortunately, you hit that one right on the head!


139 posted on 01/22/2023 10:43:06 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: dforest

>>The kid is a little messed up monster.<<

A very accurate description.


140 posted on 01/22/2023 10:56:03 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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