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NY plans to change the way you heat your home. Gas, oil, propane furnaces to be phased out
syracuse.com ^ | December 19, 2022 | Tim Knauss

Posted on 12/19/2022 6:56:40 PM PST by lowbridge

A state commission today approved plans to phase out fossil fuel-burning furnaces beginning as soon as 2025 as part of New York’s aggressive program to address climate change.

The plan adopted today by the state Climate Action Council requires energy-efficient electric heat pumps or other non-combustion heating systems in every new home built in 2025 or thereafter.

For existing homes, residents whose fossil fuel-burning heating units give out after 2030 will have to replace them with a zero-emission system.

Those are just two of the many policies in a 445-page plan adopted today by the state Climate Action Council, a 22-member commission made up of state agency leaders, environmental experts, energy industry leaders and others.

Some of the policies approved today in the Climate Action Council’s “final scoping plan’' require further action before they can be enforced. The new regulations on heating systems, for example, will require changes to the state building code. Other changes may require new legislation.

But the council’s “final scoping plan” is now the official policy for how state government will meet goals for greenhouse gas reduction required under a state law passed in 2019. State regulations must follow its prescriptions, said Robert Howarth, a Cornell University professor and a member of the Climate Action Council.

“Agencies are supposed to go ahead and start following the plan -- making regulations, doing whatever it is that needs to be done -- as of next month,’’ said Howarth, a professor of ecology and environmental biology.

Get ready to learn about electric heat pumps.

In Central New York, officials are planning for a massive housing boom to accommodate thousands of workers expected to build and staff new chip fabs for Micron Technology. The transition to new household heating technology could be especially significant.

(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ahoax; babyitscoldinside; carbonpropaganda; climatechange; climatechangefraud; climatehoax; fakescience; fossilfuels; globalwarminghoax; homeheating; letthemallfreeze; newyork
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To: lowbridge

The Chinese are, of course, doing the same thing. All of India as well. And Europe and Africa. Asia is in and all of South America.

We’ll have this Global Warming thingy under control in nothing flat.

Oops, I just woke up. Maybe that’s all just an impossible dream.


21 posted on 12/19/2022 7:10:15 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: Tell It Right

A bunch of effing whackjobs.


22 posted on 12/19/2022 7:11:03 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: lowbridge

Electric heat is much more expensive, and heat pumps are impractical this far north. Single digit lows are not uncommon in upstate NY.


23 posted on 12/19/2022 7:12:43 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: Rural_Michigan

Actually not that bad. But these idiots have NO PLANS to increase grid capacity and reliability and thus people will have no heat when there is no electricity. Fossil fuels and their delivery systems are more reliable and durable.

How to stay warm, BURN A DEMOCRAT!!!


24 posted on 12/19/2022 7:13:27 PM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Mark17

Why not. It is already used to power the brains of those who made this decision.


25 posted on 12/19/2022 7:14:30 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lowbridge

I really want to see how the heat pump system deals with a Binghamton or Syracuse or Buffalo winter.


26 posted on 12/19/2022 7:14:36 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: HamiltonJay

27 posted on 12/19/2022 7:14:44 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: lowbridge
We live in a time now where the Global Elite FORCE us to buy their products, under the guise of mandated bullsh$t "crisis" orders. They control the USA government, most world governments, and mandate the wealth redistribution to fund their sales. It's all too obvious, and the control of the Media, and control of "Legal" system, now have led to this madness.

There will ultimately be a time (decades from now, due to indoctrination of mush-headed yewts) when people will finally tell them to shove it up their aSSes, and go back to being self-reliant, and locals will protect themselves from the feral herds of gimmedats and "woke". Count on it.

28 posted on 12/19/2022 7:15:32 PM PST by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: joshua c
did they mention any plans to expand the grid?

Are you kidding me, they recently shut down a Nuke Generating Station just north of NYC. They don't even have enough of Generating Capacity right now.

29 posted on 12/19/2022 7:16:56 PM PST by fedupjohn (Waiting for Trump's new Caribbean Resort "Club Gitmo" to open for business! )
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To: lowbridge

Looking on the bright side, this is excellent news for folks who sell heat pumps.
And since price follows demand, expect heat pumps to get very expensive.


30 posted on 12/19/2022 7:17:13 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Rural_Michigan

We replaced our gas heat with a heat pump. It’s awful. Cold all the time.


31 posted on 12/19/2022 7:18:41 PM PST by Josa
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To: OpusatFR
"Heat pumps will be useless in upstate’s cold."

True that as far as 100% reliability on heat pumps in the harsh NY cold. But I like the idea of a variable speed heat pump as part of the heating, supplemented with a natural gas furnace for when the heat pump won't cut it. I recommended that for my extended family in Canada because some of them are getting too old to go through summer without A/C. The heat pump can be used to cool the house like it's used to heat the house. And even though the heat pump isn't enough to do all the heating in the winter, it's not completely useless in the winter (having it reduces some of the load on the natural gas furnace).

32 posted on 12/19/2022 7:19:02 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: lowbridge

There are 15M people in NYS. There are 8B people in the world. What can 15M do that will affect 8B people from a supposed climate change event? Nothing. The 15M people will be made poorer and made to suffer economic and social consequences for nothing but leftist power grabs. Yet most of those 15M will applaud their circumstances. Can’t argue with their idiocy. Let them enjoy the suck.


33 posted on 12/19/2022 7:20:02 PM PST by ChuckHam
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To: lowbridge

First it was masks and lockdowns, next furnaces.


34 posted on 12/19/2022 7:20:05 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: lowbridge

22 people costing the people of the State of New York countless billions of dollars. We sit on the richest reservoir of Natural Gas in the world and these numbskulls are creating an insane goal that will never be reached.


35 posted on 12/19/2022 7:22:22 PM PST by Shady (The #JihadJunta: "We are now a nation of Men, Not of Laws. You are not as equal as we are...")
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To: lowbridge

In other news, New York State to phase out its residents.


36 posted on 12/19/2022 7:22:35 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!0)
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To: lowbridge

I don’t know much about heat pumps, but don’t they draw heat from ambient air around the units? How does that work when it’s 10 degrees below?


37 posted on 12/19/2022 7:22:57 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Disambiguator

“Can you still put a wood stove in a new house?”

nope ... only non-combustion heat sources ...


38 posted on 12/19/2022 7:23:41 PM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: Rural_Michigan

Don’t worry, they work just fine as long as the inefficient backup electric resistance heater is working.


39 posted on 12/19/2022 7:23:47 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!0)
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To: Leaning Right

heat pumps are almost useless up there ...


40 posted on 12/19/2022 7:24:14 PM PST by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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