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Poland Supplies MiG29s to Ukraine
Polish Foreign Ministry ^ | 03/08/2022 | Polish Foreign Ministry

Posted on 03/08/2022 11:10:58 AM PST by pierrem15

The authorities of the Republic of Poland, after consultations between the President and the Goverment, are ready to deploy – immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Ramstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America.

At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes.

The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aircraft; bidensbuttgirls; chechens; chechnya; europeanunion; mig29; nato; poland; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; war; zottherussiantrolls
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To: DarthVader
Wrong!!! Those are MLRS launched EW munitions. Only arm chair generals think the way you do.

Who should I believe? You or my lying eyes? The bonus of shooting down Israeli planes for Russia and its arms industry in prestige and sales would be enormous. If they haven't done it, it's because they can't.

341 posted on 03/09/2022 7:02:23 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: griffin

I suspect the Russians are following a similar policy to what we did in Korea, at least with B-29s...send the high-time equipment to the sideshow and keep the newest and best in reserve for the anticipated “main event”.


342 posted on 03/09/2022 7:10:12 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress" )
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To: pierrem15

Me I know what I am talking about. It is my profession.

“If they haven’t done it, it’s because they can’t. “

Wrong as this is a decapitation operation that is limited in its target selection and rules of engagement. Stop taking the media too seriously about what is being presented. I have much deeper resources.


343 posted on 03/09/2022 7:42:58 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: pierrem15

Read this and learn something:

https://www.naval-technology.com/comment/electronic-warfare-technology-trends/


344 posted on 03/09/2022 7:44:57 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

Thanks for the very helpful and informative posts.

Can you imagine the reaction of the German Defense Minister to the news the MIG 29s could be going to Ramstein?

As far as I can tell, a double envelopment is underway in the East and South, while Kiev is being surrounded by forces capable of leveling it (while not pulling the trigger), to lay the groundwork for an ultimatum.

The political situation is as if we made Martin Sheen President because a lot of people watched The West Wing.


345 posted on 03/09/2022 7:51:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Interesting article. Thanks my friend!


346 posted on 03/09/2022 8:02:29 AM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: Jim Noble

I concur and was was talking to a few folks about this last night. Thanks for the input. You are paying attention to what matters.


347 posted on 03/09/2022 8:12:05 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Bulwyf

saying and doing aint the same thing tho. just sayin...


348 posted on 03/09/2022 8:22:46 AM PST by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: DarthVader

Russia is being crushed if you count Twitter owns and stars singing “Imagine” on a Zoom call.

In the mechanized armies department - not so much.

And you know what? I’m sure Putin can imagine “Imagine” just like I can, and we both know it’s a dream of Hell on Earth.


349 posted on 03/09/2022 8:29:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: agere_contra

When lecturing, I love to use analogies, and provided the analogy itself is interesting and can be used to teach something that the students may find interesting and will broaden their education, I do not mind making myself obscure and then explaining myself.


350 posted on 03/09/2022 8:43:04 AM PST by Hieronymus
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To: pierrem15

Very good.

Analysis like this is why it is worth sticking around FR—along with the opportunity to both read some good humor and have some people catch obscure jokes.

Poland isn’t going to get caught in the middle again.


351 posted on 03/09/2022 8:49:19 AM PST by Hieronymus
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To: agere_contra
Yanukovych was negotiating with the EU and with Russia. The offer from Russia included a cheap energy deal and money. The EU offer didn't.

The "offer" from Russia included the Ukrainians integrating their economy more closely with the crappy Russian trade block rather than the vastly superior EU. More importantly, it would have tied Ukraine more closely to Russia which is exactly what the vast majority of the Ukrainian people and the Ukrainian Parliament did not want. They wanted to distance themselves from Russia, not get closer.

That was unacceptable to Putin, so he publicly threatened trade sanctions in addition to alleged private threats. Those public threats alone were a direct violation of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum in which Russia had promised:

"to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interests the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in their sovereignty and thus secure advantages of any kind."

When Yanukovych suddenly reversed his promise to sign the EU deal in the face of overwhelming Ukrainian sentiment (and his own promises) to do so, the Ukrainian people rightly believed they were being sold out to Russia. So literally hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians poured into the streets of Kiev to resist their country being tied economically to Russia. That wasn't the CIA's doing -- that was the Ukrainian people themselves. And when Yanukovych left the country, he owent to his cushy retirement villa in - of course - Russia.

That 2014 Revolution was about the Ukrainian people not wanting to be sold out to Russian domination. And good for them.

352 posted on 03/09/2022 8:49:59 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Jim Noble

And you know what? I’m sure Putin can imagine “Imagine” just like I can, and we both know it’s a dream of Hell on Earth.


I think that he is better at imagining “Back in the U.S.S.R.”


353 posted on 03/09/2022 8:50:28 AM PST by Hieronymus
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To: politicket

“Putin’s invasion was a direct response to NATO wanting to set up shop 300 miles from Moscow on the Ukrainian border.”

B.S. “NATO” is less than 300 miles from Russian borders, in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, all much smaller than Ukraine, and all much easier for Putin to take if/when he wants.

But the NATO missions in those three states are all defensive - air patrol, demonstrate no threat to Russia and Russia even has a seat at NATO where NATO’s defensive posture in the former Soviet states is openlu discussed.

No, taking Ukraine is not about NATO, it’s about Putin seeking to rebuild the former Soviet and Russian Czarist empire, piece by piece. He will not be satisfied with Ukraine. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Moldava will be next. Then he will will keeping adding to his demands that even Poland and other former Soviet states have no right to belong to NATO.

Putin has started WWIII, the west is just late to admitting it.


354 posted on 03/09/2022 9:02:57 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Just remember to get flat and hug the ground right after the flash.


355 posted on 03/09/2022 9:34:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: griffin

Because we are not a war with Russia, that’s why. If the Ukrainian’s get nuked then I will be sad about it. But we aint a war with Russia.


356 posted on 03/09/2022 10:14:20 AM PST by Smogger
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To: Jim Noble

Jim, they are massing their better forces in the areas they hold right now. That is why we are seeing the mass exodus occurring.


357 posted on 03/09/2022 10:17:48 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Wuli
Putin has started WWIII, the west is just late to admitting it.

You took my words and formed them into your own misunderstanding.

I said NATO tanks on the Ukrainian border would be 300 miles from Moscow - not just some Russian border.

Estonia is 612 miles. Latvia is 551 miles. Lithuania is 618 miles.

The power elites forced Putin's hand to respond.

This isn't a defense of Putin - it's a clear cut fact that the international power brokers are making their move.

358 posted on 03/09/2022 11:12:29 AM PST by politicket
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To: griffin

If I learned one thing in two stints in Bosnia it’s if a slav says something, it’s best to pay attention. They’re usually dead serious. We don’t need to be drawn into conflict.

The good news is Russians found some of the bio labs US had over there, now international community is demanding answers. Now we know why all those left leaning politicians were so anxious to help Ukraine.


359 posted on 03/09/2022 2:48:20 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: HighSierra5

Right! When nuclear war is unleased, forget about groceries at any price, gasoline burned up, and people dying from radiation. Russia is not Iraq or Afghanistan.


360 posted on 03/09/2022 7:03:39 PM PST by entropy12 (Blockade of sovereign Cuba was fine, but invading Ukraine not acceptable to Neocons!)
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