Posted on 03/08/2022 11:10:58 AM PST by pierrem15
The authorities of the Republic of Poland, after consultations between the President and the Goverment, are ready to deploy – immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Ramstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America.
At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes.
The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein.
Eh, I disagree...it works its way up. Its like pringles...nothing to stop at just one or two. Where is that in the SOP. US has no tac nuks. So a small responce isnt happening if Russia lets loose with them.
Kaliber and Onyx Yakunt.
I'm sure the Russians can build a few hand-produced lab models that when combined with well-trained techs can perform close to what's advertised.
But there's very little evidence that the ones actually fielded work. Or even that they can get there without breaking down, blowing tires or getting stuck in the mud.
Putin's invasion was a direct response to NATO wanting to set up shop 300 miles from Moscow on the Ukrainian border.
You would have done the same thing if you were seeking to protect the country you lead.
Not saying Putin is a saint - but he was pushed into action by the threat matrix.
Why is Poland flying the Migs to Germany when Poland is next door to Ukraine..
The offer from Russia included a cheap energy deal and money. The EU offer didn't.
Yanukovych paused the EU negotiations, rationally seeking a better offer.
Whereupon the Obama Whitehouse backed an armed coup.
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Let's look at that EU deal. If the WhiteHouse version of history were correct, and the Ukraineans sought EU membership so badly they were willing to have a spontaneous armed coup to get it - then we have to ask the question:
Why didn't Ukraine get EU membership? They've had eight years free of wicked Russian corruption and that evil, evil Yanukovych. Why didn't they join the EU?
Well it turns out that EU candidates must satisfy a series of economic and political conditions in order to even qualify. Ukraine would need to meet the ‘Copenhagen criteria’.
They would need a free-market economy, a judiciary system based on the rule of law and a stable democratic political system.
IIRC Poroshenko tentatively put the date of Ukraine's meeting the requirements to enter the EU at about 2030. I would have to find the link to be sure.
It doesn't sound like the golden fruits of blessed EU membership were snatched away by that evil Russian puppet Yanukovych. It sounds like they were never there. Not for Ukraine.
Poland doesn't want to go to war to support Obama's coup.
Also: I would bet that Poland especially doesn't want to go to war to support Galician interests. Not since Mykola Lebed's enthusiastic genocide of Poles in the region.
If you figured it out without googling I am really impressed.
agere_contra
Keep up stimulating people intellectually, even if it ought to be accompanied with the line: “I trust I make myself obscure”
What would Russian made Mig planes be doing at Ramstein?
Yes, I’d say we are, this was the reason I was so adamant that we mind our own business.
They’ve already said they would go non conventional if NATO gets involved.
If Poland does this ...Mig Jets in the sky means Polands entered the war.
Article reads....” to place them at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America”.....
So it’s indirectly now involving the US in Ukraines battle. And that’s not going to be a good thing for US or Poland.
Well, that would mirror the dem philosophy that when you’re broke, you need to spend more money to become prosperous.
Fair point. I plead guilty.
I should have said 'The Dementia Patient in the Whitehouse'.
Blinken was pressuring them to make the transfer, so they called his bluff.
Whichi is why the US MArines have their own dedicated ground support air service.They sure as hell know how to use those A-10 Thuds.
This is a limited conflict for now and they have been using them sparingly to prepare the battlefield. Most of the Ukrainian is in underground bunkers so the threat of these things is working. BTW Victoria Nuland has admitted that we put up those biowarfare labs and this hurts us big time. Obama put them up.
“But there’s very little evidence that the ones actually fielded work. Or even that they can get there without breaking down, blowing tires or getting stuck in the mud.”
Wrong!!! Those are MLRS launched EW munitions. Only arm chair generals think the way you do.
Looks like our government is chickening out now!
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