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Trump's stirring vaccine defense: Ex-president says most Americans dying or hospitalized because of COVID are unvaccinated, encourages everyone to get the shot and brands it 'one of the greatest achievements of mankind'
dm ^ | 12/23/2021 | Katelyn Caralle and Harriet Alexander

Posted on 12/23/2021 8:15:06 AM PST by chief lee runamok

Donald Trump said Wednesday that people unvaccinated against coronavirus are the ones getting 'very sick' as he pushed back against conservative Candace Owens by claiming all Americans should get the jab while he again took credit for its creation.

'I came up with a vaccine – with three vaccines,' Trump told the Daily Wire host, referring to the development of the Moderna, Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson vaccines while he was still president. 'All are very, very good. Came up with three of them in less than nine months. It was supposed to take five to 12 years.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: aversconfused; smartman; trump; trumpvaccines
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To: jimwatx

The 2020 campaign’s platform was “Vote for Trump.” That was literally it. If we are going to sub in DeSantis in 2024 there needs to be an actual platform. So what’s in the platform?


241 posted on 12/23/2021 9:49:39 AM PST by PoeToaster
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To: jimwatx

“So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”


242 posted on 12/23/2021 9:51:14 AM PST by nbenyo
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To: setter
Ah, from your link I found this link to some CDC reported data. It appears that CDC is now capturing vax data from "27 jurisdictions" (would love to know which) showing death and case rates based on vax status -- incidence per 100,000 population, of course.

Not surprisingly, the data show that the jab is really only effective at all for mitigating against hospitalization and death in folks over the age of 65. I have said from day one that were I in the highest risk groups, I would definitely consider getting the jab.

But given what we know about the adverse effects (which are not reflected in these charts at all), the risk-reward ratio is basically a push for anyone under age 65 who is otherwise in good health.

To mandate this jab for anyone under age 30 is utter and complete folly.
243 posted on 12/23/2021 9:51:31 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“new drugs are kept OFF the market until clinical testing is done”

Clinical testing was done on all FDA authorized vaccines before they were dispensed outside of a clinical trial.


244 posted on 12/23/2021 9:52:05 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: RaceBannon

No, you weren’t “right.” He is conservative in many ways, but mostly wrong about the Vax. I do not think it is his ego, I think it is something else. He had a bad case of COVID. Maybe that is effecting his judgment.

He needs to have someone sit down and show him facts.

There are several famous preachers pushing the Vax, too, in dpute I’d ask the deaths FROM the vax itself. I do not get it.


245 posted on 12/23/2021 9:52:11 AM PST by madison10 (Let's go, Braindead!)
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To: chief lee runamok

Too much ego fails the best in us.


246 posted on 12/23/2021 9:52:21 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Ron H.

Who do you prefer that isn’t either incompetent (Obama, Biden) or a Deep State Candidate (Bush Sr. & Jr., Clinton)? Honestly, Trump did a lot of good while in office and now because of one issue, I see a lot of people knocking him instead of going after Fauci for funding the Wuhan Lab which caused COVID-19 and gave billions to Big Pharma companies.


247 posted on 12/23/2021 9:52:23 AM PST by Metrobank
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To: Metrobank

What you said.


248 posted on 12/23/2021 9:53:50 AM PST by madison10 (Let's go, Braindead!)
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To: setter

If you are young and in good health, don’t bother getting vaccinated. Everyone else, good luck!!!


249 posted on 12/23/2021 9:55:23 AM PST by Atticus
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To: setter

Where’s your proof? On CNN??


250 posted on 12/23/2021 9:56:15 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Alberta's Child

“Refusing to make a decision about something with potentially serious and permanent adverse consequences makes all the sense in the world.”

What would you like Ms. BLM?

Equity!

Why did you not buy Apple stock in the 1990s?

I might have suffered a “potentially serious and permanent adverse” loss of retirement savings.


251 posted on 12/23/2021 9:58:57 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: BrexitBen
"Donald Trump must not want to run again."

Whether he does or not, is no matter to me. I decided on January 6th, that I would no longer be a member of the GOP, and won't be voting ever again until voter fraud is totally eliminated. I'm finished with the party that doesn't respect me enough to want to protect my ballot from voter fraud. Republicans have been useless for years. I have no use for them.

252 posted on 12/23/2021 9:59:11 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“A peanut butter and jelly sandwich can be fatal to some people to, what’s your point?”

People do not lose their job if they don’t eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. People are losing their jobs for refusing to take the current mandated Vaccine.


253 posted on 12/23/2021 9:59:21 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: Metrobank

Can you say that, after reading his Exec Orders? He used Executive privilege to usher in the 4th Industrial revolution/WEF agenda. That is not an exaggeration. Nothing has been as it appears, it is all BS. From Q to the msm. We have been bamboozled.


254 posted on 12/23/2021 9:59:34 AM PST by M_Continuum
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To: stylin19a

all us old timers understand well the need to defeat hillary, but there was no way I was going to trust someone who invited her to his wedding, golfed with boehner, ryan, pals with schumer and all ny/nj dems and rinos...

yeah, glad for the great economy but the peace treaties were coming anyways for the middle east, he chose some horrible people who were only good in the media and useless in real life. Glad he didnt start any new wars, angry he didnt finish the existing ones with fire and fury

there is no new wall, there is no lack of abortion mills, the phony christians he associated with were all tv evangelists scam artists and perverts.

I do think the media totally trashed him, slandered him, and it made it look worse to know that in 2014 they all would have begged to sleep in his hotels and golf with him or gamble at his casinos


255 posted on 12/23/2021 10:00:00 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Williams
The fact is death rates are WAY LOWER than before the vaccines.

The fact is a tsunami is first noticed when the water recedes from the beach. That is where we are with CoVID. So any statistical projections that included the early CoVID cases resulting in death, 'unadjusted' by the 'jabs' for death rates, are mixing apples and oranges, figuratively.

When the waves return to the beach, the tsunami becomes obvious. At that point there is no escape. These are the 'breakthru' cases from 'jabbed' victims who have stayed on the beach to take pictures.

The fact is, Excess Death rates are WAY HIGHER than just before CoVID, which seems to contradict your opinion.

256 posted on 12/23/2021 10:00:00 AM PST by RideForever (One of the CoVID naturally immune control group)
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To: chief lee runamok

This thread is smoking.


257 posted on 12/23/2021 10:01:25 AM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: Roadrunner383
"Anyone that doesn’t express a hatred of vaccines subject to attack by the mob."

My, what a drama queen. And here for a little over a year. Better get a thicker skin.

258 posted on 12/23/2021 10:02:28 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t think Trump’s position on the vaccines will matter at all unless COVID persists for another two years. Don’t forget Reagan’s saying that someone who sides with you 80% of the time is not a 20% enemy, but an 80% friend.


259 posted on 12/23/2021 10:03:40 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"It’s not insane at all to trust science."

It's insane to trust all science.

260 posted on 12/23/2021 10:03:45 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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