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As COVID cases rise, officials fear a possible holiday surge
NY Post ^ | 11/19/2021 | AP

Posted on 11/19/2021 11:46:36 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

BOSTON — Officials in Massachusetts are worried about a possible surge of COVID-19 during the holiday season, after the number of new cases in a single day reached its highest point since February.

Health officials reported 3,196 new cases on Thursday. Education officials reported 3,257 new cases among public school students and 558 among staff members for the week that ended Wednesday, a record high for a single week, The Boston Globe reported.

A Boston Medical Center epidemiologist, Dr. Cassandra Pierre, told The Globe she’s now more worried about Thanksgiving celebrations because the rise in cases is coming the week before a national holiday where people traditionally gather together with their family indoors.

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To: Sacajaweau

I totally agree with you-most of us out here had the Wuhan virus a year ago-we’ve had herd immunity since, so it really was over months ago for us-now the Fauci worshippers are trying to find a way to quarantine people for holidays-again- to keep the fear and control going-but too many people are just saying f*** no to that-and it didn’t work in rural areas the 1st time-looks like people are getting over the scam...


21 posted on 11/19/2021 2:18:34 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Bet they’re really worried about P-town....


22 posted on 11/19/2021 2:22:54 PM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27; All

You’d think that after two years, everyone is either immune, have had the Covid, or been vaccinated and therefore no more Covid cases. I think most of these reports are for the common cold of one of the Chinese flus that show up every year.


23 posted on 11/19/2021 2:56:05 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s Déjà vu, all over again.


24 posted on 11/19/2021 3:28:05 PM PST by Making_Sense [Rob W. Case]
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To: MassachusettsConservative
Massachusetts the most jabbed state in the union has one of the worst rates right now.

Deaths involving COVID have started to increase in the Commonwealth as well in recent months, compared to those same months in 2020 (i.e., pre-vaccines). Specifically,

August 2020: 118 COVID deaths / August 2021: 162 COVID deaths

September 2020: 102 COVID deaths / September 2021: 338 COVID deaths

October 2020: 198 COVID deaths / October 2021: 315 COVID deaths.

According to the CDC, 80.6% of the population of Massachusetts age 12 and above is fully vaccinated. For that portion of the population age 65 and above, the percentage is 91.3%.

It is not possible to tell from the data the CDC makes available (which data are compiled by the National Center for Health Statistics, based on information submitted to it by the various state health departments) what percentage of the aforementioned deceased were vaxxed v. unvaxxed. It is possible, however, to further scrutinize the data by age category. Here, the reported data tell us that, for the month of September 2021, 247 of the 338 COVID deaths were incurred in those aged 65 or older. A further 70 deaths were incurred by those in the 50 to 64-year-old age category.

For the month of October 2021, 219 of the reported 315 COVID deaths were incurred by those age 65 or older. A further 72 such deaths were incurred by those in the 50 to 64-year-old age category.

25 posted on 11/19/2021 3:29:07 PM PST by DSH
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To: lightman

Brilliant illustration!


26 posted on 11/19/2021 3:29:15 PM PST by Making_Sense [Rob W. Case]
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“If there was a Thanksgiving surge, it is hard to see against the tidal wave of coronavirus cases that was already breaking over the nation.”

there’s a chart embedded in this 2020 Buzzfeed article and they’re right, hard to tell since it was exploding everywhere anyway.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/thanksgiving-covid-surge-christmas-fauci

bottom line is, this is still an airborne virus so use common sense in any situation, whether wearing a mask in crowds or open windows for ventilation or whatever.


27 posted on 11/19/2021 4:16:18 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: woweeitsme

Boston Globe reports that 76% of the pop is double-shot, and 95% one-shot. So 24% of the adult population, or 1.7 million roughly, are potentially at-risk. (est pop 7.1 mil) (for comparison, my state of Calif at 40 million and 67% double-shot has 17 million at risk - plus millions of uncounted illegals)

They also report that hospitalizations and deaths are down, while the cases are rising in the public schools.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/11/19/nation/covid-19-cases-are-rising-sharply-mass-ahead-holidays-how-worried-should-you-be/

According to mass.gov, Kids 12=17 can only get PFitzer vaccine and kids under 12 could only get it after Nov 2.
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-vaccinations-for-children-ages-5-11

So either kids are being infected by parents or other kids, and are infecting unvaccinated teachers or vice versa.

It is the adults who have the moral, social, legal and ethical reponsibility to protect children (and seniors) so if all the adults who interacted with them were protected (recovered/vaccinated), kids’ cases amongst themselves wouldn’t really matter because no adults would get crossinfected from kids, and so far, kids rarely die from Sars-2.


28 posted on 11/19/2021 4:42:47 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: MassachusettsConservative
Were were told that U.S. science officials such as Anthony Fauci have suggested it will take 70% to 85% coverage of the population for things to return to normal (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-04/when-will-covid-pandemic-end-near-me-vaccine-coverage-calculator) However, while I see vaccination as lowering infection rates in the short term (yet amidst the risk of side effects), the premise that increased vaccination - and esp. that of children - is the means of ending the pandemic must face the reality that, As of November 17, 2021 and using rounded figures, out of 788,000 Covid-assigned deaths, all except 18,000 have been among those 40 years old and higher, with approx. 575,000 being among those 65 years old and higher. Meaning other than the latter class (which I am in) then the the death toll would be approx. 200,000. (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge ) 91.3% of Mass seniors (65+) are fully vaxxed (86.2% nationwide) as are 81.5% of all 18+ persons. (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state) "Of the 73 million children in the U.S., fewer than 700 [605 as of November 17, 2021] have died of COVID-19 during the course of the pandemic, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention." Which is basically one out of 100,000 kids. (https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2021/10/08/covid-19-kids-cases-hospitalizations-deaths/8361479002/) Case and death rates were equal to or higher across the US this last Fall. (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us) Thus among those in the category which drives the pandemic only are about 13% have not been vaccinated, and approx. 30% of all adults, yet cases are rising. The response to which means forcing vaccination on all the young. Yet they are in very minimal risk of dying from Covid, being of more risk of dying in motor accidents - in one year 7,313.00 in ages btwn 0-24 versus (https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/historical-fatality-trends/deaths-by-age-group/) versus 5,000 from Covid during 2 years for ages 0-29? The reasoning is to mostly protect others, but which mainly means the 13% who really are in substantial risk, yet usually in extended care facilities. Then there is the other 30%, yet what even if all were vaxxed the reality is that vaccination wanes, and thus boosters become a requirement to qualify as fully vaxxed and thus work and interact freely. Until the next variant perhaps. But the elephant in the room is that the real reason we have a pandemic is due to the overall poor condition of Americans. For only approx. 5% of reported COVID-19 deaths that virus was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. But “For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities) Mostly being related to obesity, a preventable condition. In reality, obesity and other leading comorbidities usually related to it are the real drivers of premature deaths, but combating such does not see a response proportionate to that of Covid. Nor should the fit and healthy be required to be vaxxed, yet distancing from such who are infected even by a cold should be. See my post here on this aspect: https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4012121/posts?page=49#49
29 posted on 11/19/2021 4:49:37 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

Ever heard of paragraphs?


30 posted on 11/19/2021 4:53:38 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: MassachusettsConservative
Wall of text apology (but it was fine on my last preview!).
Were were told that U.S. science officials such as Anthony Fauci have suggested it will take 70% to 85% coverage of the population for things to return to normal (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-04/when-will-covid-pandemic-end-near-me-vaccine-coverage-calculator)

However, while I see vaccination as lowering infection rates in the short term (yet amidst the risk of side effects), the premise that increased vaccination - and esp. that of children - is the means of ending the pandemic must face the reality that,

As of November 17, 2021 and using rounded figures, out of 788,000 Covid-assigned deaths, all except 18,000 have been among those 40 years old and higher, with approx. 575,000 being among those 65 years old and higher. Meaning other than the latter class (which I am in) then the the death toll would be approx. 200,000. (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge )

91.3% of Mass seniors (65+) are fully vaxxed (86.2% nationwide) as are 81.5% of all 18+ persons. (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state)

"Of the 73 million children in the U.S., fewer than 700 [605 as of November 17, 2021] have died of COVID-19 during the course of the pandemic, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention." Which is basically one out of 100,000 kids. (https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2021/10/08/covid-19-kids-cases-hospitalizations-deaths/8361479002/)

Case and death rates were equal to or higher across the US this last Fall. (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us)

Thus among those in the category which drives the pandemic only are about 13% have not been vaccinated, and approx. 30% of all adults, yet cases are rising. The response to which means forcing vaccination on all the young. Yet they are in very minimal risk of dying from Covid, being of more risk of dying in motor accidents - in one year 7,313.00 in ages btwn 0-24 versus (https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/historical-fatality-trends/deaths-by-age-group/) versus 5,000 from Covid during 2 years for ages 0-29? The reasoning is to mostly protect others, but which mainly means the 13% who really are in substantial risk, yet usually in extended care facilities. Then there is the other 30%, yet what even if all were vaxxed the reality is that vaccination wanes, and thus boosters become a requirement to qualify as fully vaxxed and thus work and interact freely. Until the next variant perhaps.

But the elephant in the room is that the real reason we have a pandemic is due to the overall poor condition of Americans. For only approx. 5% of reported COVID-19 deaths that virus was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. But “For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities) Mostly being related to obesity, a preventable condition
.
In reality, obesity and other leading comorbidities usually related to it are the real drivers of premature deaths, but combating such does not see a response proportionate to that of Covid. Nor should the fit and healthy be required to be vaxxed, yet distancing from such who are infected even by a cold should be.

See my post here on this aspect: https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4012121/posts?page=49#49


31 posted on 11/19/2021 4:54:21 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: blueplum
They also report that hospitalizations and deaths are down, while the cases are rising in the public schools.

Deaths involving COVID are not down in Massachusetts. At least not recently. Information compiled by the National Center for Health Statistics indicates that, from a pandemic-low of 69 COVID deaths in July 2021, the Commonwealth has incurred 162 such deaths in August 2021, 338 in September 2021, and 315 in October 2021. Already in November 2021, the NCHS reports 88 COVID deaths in Massachusetts.

A "decrease" in deaths from September to October 2021? Is that what the newspapers are referencing? A more meaningful measure of the efficacy of the vaccines, if that is what is in view, would be a comparison of October 2021 to October 2020 (when, of course, no one in Massachusetts had yet been vaccinated). In October 2020, there were 198 deaths involving COVID in Massachusetts.

I'm not sure what you mean by people being "potentially at risk." Even the CDC has acknowledged that fully vaccinated people are at risk of contracting, and spreading, COVID.

32 posted on 11/19/2021 5:27:56 PM PST by DSH
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Deaths?
ICU Admissions?
Hospitalizations?
Pre existing conditions?
Vaccination status?
33 posted on 11/19/2021 7:21:30 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
" Ever heard of paragraphs? "

Indeed! I was aghast when I saw that. I had just previewed before this before but I had added a little more text and it resulted in a wall of text, for something that the software sees as html was in there. Thus I quickly edited and posted it with paragraphs. I have stiff arthritic fingers so tried to get away with no html this time. Sorry.

34 posted on 11/19/2021 8:00:15 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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