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Pastor John MacArthur may face fine, arrest for holding indoor services: 'We will obey God rather than men'
Christian Post ^ | 08/03/2020 | Anugrah Kumar

Posted on 08/03/2020 8:52:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Leaning Right

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41 posted on 08/03/2020 11:28:03 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: SeekAndFind
How incredible; Newsom releases felons from prison and threatens to arrest God fearing men simply exercising their First amendment right. FU Gruesome Newsom. Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
42 posted on 08/03/2020 11:47:54 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: Okeydoker

For obeying Scripture?


43 posted on 08/03/2020 12:00:36 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: Leaning Right

“... The main concern should be the safety of the congregation..”
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If ppl don’t want to catch Covid, they can stay home. At least this pastor has courage and understands the needs of his flock. My archbishop is a coward. He let us suffer for weeks.


44 posted on 08/03/2020 1:01:20 PM PDT by BarbM (Not only didn't I wear a mask, I breathed on you)
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To: chickenlips

Gatherings spread Communicable disease. Doesn’t matter what type of gatherings.

This fact has been known and prohibited during epidemics for more than 150 years. Do some reading.

Idiots, morons, and other “superior” thinking people seem to think that somehow churches are exempt from this basic physical rule.

More than one pastor who believed he was smarter than everyone else has died by defying public health common sense. It hasn’t apparently stopped the attention seeking.

If the less educated were a little more tuned into world history and were aware of the way epidemics were handled throughout history, long before vaccines, they wouldn’t be so surprised at the current strategy used by public health.


45 posted on 08/03/2020 1:30:39 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: SeekAndFind

Scanning through the comments proved my worst fears Most of FR are infested with fearmongers who think it is OK to tell churchs when and how many can attend their services.

Utterly useless to the Constitution. Are we going to shut down the churchs every single year during the flu season. If not, then why now?


46 posted on 08/03/2020 3:50:07 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: SeekAndFind; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; MamaB; ...
I do not like unreasonable or excessive government regulation and enforcement of it, within its God-given power I think it can disallow gatherings such as for reasons such as dangerous construction, lack of fire exits, etc. (but what might etc. include ?), yet in this case the issue is that its degree restriction is unwarranted. Services should surely be allowed outside, as well as inside within a 30% capacity, with distancing, fresh air ventilation, and with multiple services and separate and more restrictive services for those who are old, and only outside services for those in poor health or knowingly sick with a viral contagion (such was dealt with in the OT by separation).

However, by engaging in his either/or position and not working with the gov. to allow alternatives then I do not think MacArthur is on solid ground.

47 posted on 08/04/2020 8:49:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

I don’t think there’s much working with the guvment in CA.


48 posted on 08/04/2020 8:53:56 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Okeydoker

I’m so thankful that we have you erudite, irreligious elites to put us less educated morons in our place. Rights, shmights, who needs ‘em anyway?


49 posted on 08/04/2020 10:01:38 AM PDT by chickenlips
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To: chickenlips

One can be both religious and have a brain, except in Conspiracy Land


50 posted on 08/04/2020 11:34:25 AM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: daniel1212; SeekAndFind; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; ...
The problem occurred when Gov Newsome issued a decree that churches were to remain closed indefinitely. This is when California is allowing abortion clinics, liquor stores, and other such endeavors to remain open. Pastor MacArthur rightfully stated that churches are suppose to be a light to a broken world. Given that the suicide rate is climbing, riots are occurring, people shooting one another; how can you be a light when your shut down?

There is no precedence for church affairs to be regulated by the government-can't sing, only fifty people can attend, etc. This is nothing more than communism and exactly what they do in China. Most of the true church there is underground and that is exactly what we are heading for. Pretending to conduct Zoom Bible studies and social gatherings-but failing to meet together. If people feel uncomfortable with getting together to worship, then they can stay home. That's OK. But I think John MacArthur is right on. It's too bad other churches are not following his lead.

Heb 10:24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

Here is Pastor MacArthur's most excellent sermon on this matter: We Must Obey God Rather Than Men

51 posted on 08/04/2020 12:43:46 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: SeekAndFind

“Everyone meet at Walmart on Sunday in the liquor section: 10 AM. No one will be shopping there. We will sing and pray and I’ll say a few words.”


52 posted on 08/04/2020 7:18:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DesertRhino

“Beloved; Walmart management has cast us out; so we’ll meet in the Metroplex Theater at 11, instead.”

The feature film will The Passion, followed by an intermission, then by Apocalypto - both Mel Gibson movies.

Evening service at 6 PM with The Patriot showing.


53 posted on 08/04/2020 7:23:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Leaning Right
“What Would Jesus Do”

At least (for now) we don't have to stay outside the city and shout UNCLEAN! when someone comes near.

54 posted on 08/04/2020 7:25:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Leaning Right

We are ADULTS!!

Let US decide what is SAFE!!


55 posted on 08/04/2020 7:26:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RicocheT
If you are a Christian...

...or even if you are not!

56 posted on 08/04/2020 7:28:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Leaning Right

Safety?

It is one thing to say, “We’re having church. You’d BETTER be here!”

And another to say, “We’re having church; come if you wish.”


57 posted on 08/04/2020 7:30:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Okeydoker
Gatherings spread Communicable disease. Doesn’t matter what type of gatherings.

I don't think anyone disagrees with this; just the double or triple standard of what type of 'gatherings' are permitted and what are not.


Some truly are more equal than others.

58 posted on 08/04/2020 7:33:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Okeydoker

“Idiots, morons, and other “superior” thinking people seem to think that somehow churches are exempt from this basic physical rule.”

I think the point is why should churches be subject to restrictions far more severe than businesses, let alone protests? Why are churches singled out for bans? If you can have 50% capacity seating at a restaurant, why limit a congregation of 1,000 to 10 people?

The answer is the people making the rules hate Jesus Christ and any who follow Him!


59 posted on 08/04/2020 7:51:25 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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I totally agree that the rules should be the same for all gatherings. It is outrageous that democrats allow protests but nothing else for example. I could not agree more. What’s good for one is good for another. But I think it is foolish for evangelical preachers to somehow think that their gatherings are exempt from the rules. That is just wrong and it is dangerous for their old parishioners.


60 posted on 08/04/2020 8:13:53 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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